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Never A Fair Fight

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ModocForever
ModocForever@ForeverModoc·
"A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed." Communists are not people. Communists do not believe in the security of a free state. Communists do not have 2nd amendment rights.
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Philip Bunn
Philip Bunn@PhilipDBunn·
I’ve spent many years trying to explain to my friends to my left what it feels like to be a conservative navigating academia. It certainly would have been easier not to be one. But based on current discourse, I guess the whole time I’ve been a secret lefty doing lefty things.
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Thomas D. Howes
Thomas D. Howes@ThomasDHowes·
Rufo spends as much time fighting the best conservative academics as he does fighting the left. And his stans defend him based on results. Even from the standpoint of results favorable to conservatives, that sounds like a wash to me, and carried out by corruptive means.
Peter Spiliakos@petespiliakos

1. Rufo is so lucky in his enemies. How do you look at the institutional left over the last decade and decide that the priority must be not reducing their discretion on the grounds that it will "polarize" them?

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ModocForever
ModocForever@ForeverModoc·
well, lets see: Rufo is not doing it home, and I don't see evidence of him doing this at work. Is he randomly assaulting people with megaphones on the street? No. In a broader context: right wingers aren't burning down cities when their public figures are assassinated. The left cheers when the left assassinates people. You are blind.
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ABTejana
ABTejana@MbProfesora·
@ForeverModoc I’m certain there are litanies of what the right does in places they control. It’s silly and inaccurate to act like either one of these players are above any of this
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ABTejana
ABTejana@MbProfesora·
To play with McLuhan, “the method is the message.” If you “fight” in terms of power with no mind to justice it doesn’t matter how just you think your ends are. What you did to get power turned you and your vision into something incapable of sustaining the good or just on earth
Wokal Distance@wokal_distance

This is not Rufo just aimlessly trying to be a dick. he is attempting to show that the methods of the Elizabeth Corey types have failed because they don't understand that the problem is not a matter of communication or persuasion. The right is having power politics done to them by the left, and Rufo's point is that you can't fight power politics with persuasion. It is impossible to reason with power politics for the exact same reason that it is impossible to reason with a punch in the face. You cannot appeal to the better nature and intellectual honesty of a person who thinks that all intellectual engagement is merely masks for power and all justifications are merely rhetorical moves in a discursive struggle for political position. Again, academics simply refuse to engage with Rufo's theory of change, what he is trying to do intellectually and politically, or his normative and strategic justifications for doing so. If academics want understanding, perhaps they could, you know, ask him (or me! we worked and work together!) about what is being done, why it is being done, and what the normative and strategic justifications for doing so are.

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ABTejana
ABTejana@MbProfesora·
@ForeverModoc @JacobB75646 this just seems factually incorrect after everything we have learned from the email exchanges between Bannon and Epstein.
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ModocForever
ModocForever@ForeverModoc·
weird that you focus on that vs. Planned Parent hood running a child sacrfice operation in public, but hey - Allyn Walker, Foucult, Harriet Hartman, PIE, NCCI, were all Academics and left wingers. Difference here is that they were brazenly operating in the open, compared to Bannon and Epstein.
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Elon Musk
Elon Musk@elonmusk·
Incentives explain outcomes. Actually eliminating hatred would end the existence of “anti-hate” groups, so groups like SPLC amplified hatred instead to get more donations.
@amuse@amuse

HATE HOAX: The SPLC once bankrupted the KKK but eventually it realized that to raise donor money it would need to fund the very organization it was founded to fight. The demand for racism exceeded supply so they manufactured it.

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ModocForever@ForeverModoc·
@MbProfesora @JacobB75646 They are the vast majority of them with insitutional power, and the ones who engage the the largest number of acts of public ritualistic degeneracy.
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ModocForever@ForeverModoc·
@MbProfesora @JacobB75646 Mission: The overthrow of the communists and satanic pedophiles KPIs: Reduced public trust in Satanic Pedophiles, Reduced market for satanic pedophile industries, mitigation of future satanic pedophiles It certainly isn't: Find middle ground with the satanic pedophiles.
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ABTejana
ABTejana@MbProfesora·
@JacobB75646 I guess one place to start is win what? For what? How does how you fight get you that “what”? Also why do you think justice is politeness?
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ModocForever@ForeverModoc·
@MbProfesora It seems you fear conflict itself, or the notion of zero sum conflict, and are apparently incapable of fighting for anything, out of fear that you might actually "win" or achieve "dominance".
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ABTejana
ABTejana@MbProfesora·
The only answer to that question is that you were never fighting to defend the good, you were fighting to be dominant and at the end of the day you have no justification for the preference of your dominance rather than someone else’s other than that it is yours. If that’s so, 3/
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ModocForever@ForeverModoc·
@ThomasDHowes @apokolokyntosis Are you suggesting these people should not have been fired based on Rufo's exposure of their own behavior? Is that what you really believe?
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Thomas D. Howes
Thomas D. Howes@ThomasDHowes·
If you think Elizabeth Corey, Rachel Lu, or Kevin Vallier are the problem, then you're at least part of the problem.
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ModocForever
ModocForever@ForeverModoc·
@ThomasDHowes They are useless. They are only a problem when they try to gatekeep their right flank
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ModocForever
ModocForever@ForeverModoc·
@nytimes A Businessman Runs Buisnesses is apparently a baffling concept to the NYT
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The New York Times
The New York Times@nytimes·
Elon Musk has used SpaceX as a kind of piggy bank over the last two decades, turning to the company as a financial tool to get loans and bolster his struggling companies, according to an examination by The New York Times. nyti.ms/4w8dInZ
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Andy
Andy@PositivFuturist·
"Could the far-right please stop weaponising the constant unrelenting stream of events that vindicate their worldview?"
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Thomas D. Howes
Thomas D. Howes@ThomasDHowes·
I get Rufo going after people like @McGillPatterson and me, because we're provocative and invite it, but Rufo has now been nasty to Elizabeth Corey, Rachel Lu, and Kevin Vallier???? They're nice people.
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ModocForever
ModocForever@ForeverModoc·
@kvallier @christopherrufo "Rebuilding Trust With The Left" The left doesn't argue in good faith, and the satanic nonsense you are producing is not education. And you sit here and call the people who call you out as liars. Pol Pot was right about academics.
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Kevin Vallier
Kevin Vallier@kvallier·
I want to clearly state where I think @christopherrufo has been harmful for American civic life. He has certainly done some good. My concern is that his tactics are a kind of civic poison. They salt the social earth, making trust hard to rebuild and polarization hard to reduce. I'm part of the Ohio civics project. I left an ordinary academic job to throw myself into the work of academic reform, building institutions that serve as a counterweight to left-wing overreach. The academy is in deep need of reform. I am not a beautiful loser asking conservatives to disarm. But this work requires being charitable to people we disagree with, and Rufo's rhetoric is not uniformly welcome among those of us doing it. Consider his own words: "We will eventually turn [critical race theory] toxic, as we put all of the 'various cultural insanities' under that brand category. The goal is to have the public read something 'crazy' in the newspaper and immediately think 'critical race theory.'" This isn't arguing that a view is false. It isn't trying to remove it from a curriculum. It's category construction. It has always read to me as engineered so the public can't distinguish thoughtful people who draw on CRT from crazy ones. That's not necessary to win the argument, and it corrodes the civic ground any future reform has to be built upon. I'm not tone-policing. I'm saying what Rufo gives with one hand, he takes with the other. Many of us are doing the hard daily work of academic reform, and we do not uniformly welcome his efforts, because his tactics are too bare-knuckled and, frankly, unkind. So to be clear: the academy needs reform. I am giving my career to that project. But I will not thank Rufo for anything as long as his rhetoric salts the earth for rebuilding trust with the left.
Christopher F. Rufo ⚔️@christopherrufo

Yes, I’ve polarized the public against critical race theory, anti-white discrimination, academic corruption, and fraud against the state—all of which destroy the common good and are *deserving of distrust.* Imagine calling yourself a “political philosopher” and being this dense.

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ModocForever@ForeverModoc·
@petergklein @BrandonWarmke Rufo explains himself quite clearly. His academic critics, ironically, can't get past cringe comparisons with fictitious characters in movies and books. This is toddler Marvel and Star Wars shit
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Peter G. Klein
Peter G. Klein@petergklein·
@BrandonWarmke Too many of these activists and journalists are like the Jack Nicholson character in A Few Good Men.
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Christopher F. Rufo ⚔️@christopherrufo

@wesyang Yes, and I’ve explained to people that this is precisely how I see my role: I try to enact structural changes through bare-knuckled politics so they can study poetry, history, philosophy, and art. Baffling that some don’t see how this is necessary as a matter of principle.

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Brandon Warmke
Brandon Warmke@BrandonWarmke·
I’ll just say that many conservative academics are way too precious, don’t understand power, lack the courage to say publicly anything truly socially costly, hide behind canonical figures and texts, have naïve views about the forces working against them, and are insufficiently grateful to those activists and journalists who fight politically on their behalf so they can keep out of the trenches and always claim the high moral ground.
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ModocForever@ForeverModoc·
@petergklein @kvallier @christopherrufo Because most people can see that Rufo is a Man and Elizabeth is a Woman ? It would be really interesting to plot the gender distribution in relation to these graphs, but that would be heresy for people who struggle to define what a woman is.
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Peter G. Klein
Peter G. Klein@petergklein·
@kvallier @christopherrufo Also he has no causal model, no explanation of how the attitudes and behaviors of people like you and Elizabeth - note he cites no variation in the purported x variable to go with the variation in the y variable - led to the phenomenon shown on the graph. He just asserts it.
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Christopher F. Rufo ⚔️
Christopher F. Rufo ⚔️@christopherrufo·
Your attitude is exactly what enabled this process to occur over the past half-century. And now we're here, in 2026, and you're worried, "If we start fighting now, imagine the backlash." It's like a very rare form of amnesia in which you forget all prior experience and have come to believe that history begins at the precise moment the Right takes action. Incredible.
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