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@Sovereign_Beard @PetGorilla Do you understand that I can do this with Grok or Chat GPT without losing my time here, don't you? It's more than obvious that your 10 page replies are AI.

I also need to point out that when the Church Fathers used Greek philosophical terms, they lived in a world where Greek was the language of intellectual rigor. They borrowed Greek philosophical terms—like Ousia (substance), Hypostasis (person), and Logos (word/reason)—to provide precision to biblical concepts that were already there but needed formal definition against heresies. I and others would say the early church Fathers actually "Christianized" Greek philosophy. They took terms that meant one thing to Plato or Aristotle and forced them to fit a biblical worldview (e.g., the idea that God created the world ex nihilo, which Greek philosophers thought was impossible). You would think that if the early church fathers were influenced so much by the Greeks, they would import their metaphysics. And funny how Greek metaphysics is a lot like Mormonism, huh? You don't hold it against your Mormon apologist for using modern language and philosophical terms to express their ideas, so don't criticize the early church fathers who, to defend the faith against sophisticated critics, the Fathers couldn't just quote scripture; they had to meet the culture on its own intellectual ground

@Sovereign_Beard @PetGorilla And thats avoiding my question. Your answer is completely unrelated. Follow the thread so you can understand why I asked that.

@JRodPR3 @PetGorilla No, I've used scripture to form my philosophical framework. Big difference.

@Sovereign_Beard @PetGorilla You're all over the place and this is not what I asked. Try toocus on what I wrote. "you’ve introduced a full philosophical framework about infinity, essential vs. manifest glory, and metaphysical immutability." You're to fixated on shifting the debate to interrogation.

Oh, yeah, the infinite qualities of God are nowhere found in scripture. 1. Infinity of Understanding and Wisdom The single direct mention of "infinite" in many translations refers to God’s mind. Psalm 147:5: "Great is our Lord, and of great power: his understanding is infinite" (KJV). Romans 11:33: Describes the "depth of the riches" of his wisdom as "unsearchable" and "past finding out". Isaiah 55:8–9: His thoughts and ways are as much higher than ours as the heavens are above the earth. 2. Infinity of Space (Omnipresence) Scripture teaches that God is not limited by physical boundaries or geography. 1 Kings 8:27: During the temple dedication, Solomon declares, "Behold, heaven and the highest heaven cannot contain you; how much less this house that I have built!". Psalm 139:7–10: David asks where he can flee from God's presence, concluding that whether he goes to heaven, the depths (Sheol), or the remote sea, God is there. Jeremiah 23:24: God asks, "Can anyone hide in secret places so that I cannot see him? ... Do not I fill heaven and earth?" 3. Infinity of Time (Eternality) God's infinity in time means he has no beginning and no end. Psalm 90:2: "From everlasting to everlasting, you are God". Revelation 1:8 / 22:13: He is the "Alpha and the Omega, the first and the last, the beginning and the end". ⁃ 1 Timothy 1:17: Refers to him as the "King of the ages, immortal, invisible, the only God". ⁃ 4. Infinity of Power (Omnipotence) God's power is limitless and sufficient for all his purposes. Matthew 19:26: Jesus states, "With men this is impossible, but with God all things are possible". Jeremiah 32:17: "Ah, Lord God! ... Nothing is too hard for you". Ephesians 3:20: He is able to do "infinitely more than we could ask, think, or imagine". 5. Infinity of Love Ephesians 3:18–19: Paul prays that believers would "grasp how wide and long and high and deep" the love of Christ is—a love that "surpasses knowledge".

@Sovereign_Beard @PetGorilla So before continuing the cross-examination of my beliefs, it would be fair for you to answer the questions I asked about your own framework. 1/10 1. If God is absolutely immutable and cannot change in any way, how did He go from not creating the universe to creating the universe?

@Sovereign_Beard @PetGorilla Let’s pause the one-way interrogation for a moment I’ve answered a long list of your questions without issue, but debate works both ways. When someone makes philosophical claims about God immutability, infinity, essential vs. manifest glory,they also need to justify those claims

@Sovereign_Beard @PetGorilla Those are philosophical claims about God’s nature. If you’re going to use them to declare other beliefs contradictory, you should be able to defend them.

@Sovereign_Beard @PetGorilla “manifest glory”? 3) If God is absolutely immutable and timeless, how does He freely decide to create the universe instead of eternally creating it?

@Sovereign_Beard @PetGorilla Also notice the shift in your argument. Earlier you said you were only defending “the Bible,” but now you’re appealing to a full philosophical system—metaphysical infinity, essential vs. manifest glory, and absolute immutability. Those categories aren’t defined anywhere in

Lastly, you will not find OT or NT scripture that says God is lacking in Dominion, Relationship, or Glory. I know that in saying this, your first knee-jerk response is any verse that says” will bring Glory to God.” And when you do this, you will fail to distinguish between God’s Essential Glory and Manifest Glory. Essential Glory: This is the sum of God’s infinite attributes, his power, holiness, and wisdom. Because God is perfect and immutable (unchanging), this glory is complete and cannot be added to. Manifest Glory: This is the display or recognition of God’s glory by his creation. When more people worship God or when he performs a miracle, his glory is "magnified" or "increased" in the sense that it is more widely known and acknowledged, not because he became "more" than he was.  Lastly, if God is already infinite, adding anything from a finite creation to him does not result in a "larger" infinity. So if God is infinite, then He can't progress, because you can't add to infinity. My guess, though, is you deny God is infinite, and if you do that, that affirms my God is the greatest possible creature and dependent on nature to exist, claims I made a day or two ago.

@Sovereign_Beard @PetGorilla metaphysical sense you’re using? 3) If God is absolutely immutable and timeless, how does He freely create the universe without entering a new relation with creation? Those are philosophical claims you’re importing into the text, so the burden is on you to justify them.

@Sovereign_Beard @PetGorilla come from later philosophical theology. So before continuing to interrogate LDS theology, let’s clarify your own claims: 1) Where do the Bible writers explicitly distinguish “essential glory” and “manifest glory”? 2) Where does Scripture define God as “infinite” in the

@Sovereign_Beard @PetGorilla same fallen, imperfect condition we experience now. That interpretation isn’t established—it’s simply asserted. So the contradiction you’re claiming only exists after importing that assumption into the claim.

@Sovereign_Beard @PetGorilla in the way fallen humans are. You’re equating two different claims: 1) Humans progress toward exaltation. 2) God once existed in a state comparable to humanity. Those are not logically identical propositions. Your argument assumes that “man like us” must mean the exact

@Sovereign_Beard @PetGorilla So the contradiction you’re claiming still depends on your assumption that any form of progress must mean prior deficiency. That assumption hasn’t been demonstrated from Scripture or logic, it’s simply asserted.

@Sovereign_Beard @PetGorilla Scripture itself describes God acting and accomplishing new works in time—creating, judging, covenanting—without implying He was previously imperfect.

@Sovereign_Beard @PetGorilla Those are not logically identical concepts. A being can be perfect in nature and character while still accomplishing new works or manifesting greater glory. Scripture itself describes God acting and accomplishing new works in time, creating, judging, covenanting, without