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@JonesMarkLB @Atomixion2 @gynepareidolia @marcorandazza Ambassadors are a subset of "foreigners, aliens."
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why not just write it without the highlighted text, if it means the same thing with or without the highlighted text?
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@Atomixion2 @VonFustercluck @gynepareidolia @marcorandazza …so ambassadors are foreigners now instead of aliens like you previously stated?
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@JonesMarkLB @VonFustercluck @gynepareidolia @marcorandazza a chinese invader who gives birth in America vs a foreign diplomat whose family gives while in america.
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@gearboxphilly @CaveatLector @myonlinetrust @adamscochran “relocate to a country with an extradition treaty”
if they require extradition, that means they are not within the U.S.’ jurisdiction.
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@JonesMarkLB @CaveatLector @myonlinetrust @adamscochran They do as soon as you return to either the US or relocate to a country with an extradition treaty. Often used for financial crimes, corruption cases
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That's not what it means.
The 14th amendment could have said that you were subject to *ONLY* US jurisdiction.
It didn't.
Subject to jurisdiction means can we apply laws to you.
Easy litmus:
* Do we have a right to arrest and detain you if you break a law?
Yes = you're subject to our jurisdiction currently.
Jack Posobiec@JackPosobiec
"Subject to the jurisdiction of the United States" means those who have primary allegiance to the United States and not a foreign power The 14th Amendment does not apply to foreign citizens on US soil and never did
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@gearboxphilly @CaveatLector @myonlinetrust @adamscochran “you return to either the US”
because they were previously not within the U.S.’ jurisdiction.
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@gearboxphilly @CaveatLector @myonlinetrust @adamscochran the U.S. government can prosecute but they are not actually able to punish that individual while they are outside of the U.S.’ jurisdiction.
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@JonesMarkLB @CaveatLector @myonlinetrust @adamscochran Should have been more clear: a crime that is a crime in the US but is not a crime in the foreign country. US citizens can be prosecuted for that.
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@VonFustercluck @JonesMarkLB @gynepareidolia @marcorandazza foreigners and aliens are different groups. ambassadors belong to aliens.
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@myonlinetrust @gearboxphilly @CaveatLector you don’t seem to even remotely comprehend the topic that you’re trying to discuss.
“Subject to the jurisdiction thereof” means you are subject to the laws of the United States and can be punished by the U.S. government for breaking those laws.
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@JonesMarkLB @gearboxphilly @CaveatLector Who cares? It wasn’t even the point I was trying to make. You liberals are so TDS.
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@JonesMarkLB @gynepareidolia @marcorandazza it's referencing aliens as a separate group from foreigners.
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@gearboxphilly @CaveatLector @myonlinetrust @adamscochran “commit an act that is criminal in a foreign country, you can be charged, arrested, prosecuted for, even if the act itself is not criminal in the foreign country”
is the act criminal in the foreign country or not? Make up your mind.
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@JonesMarkLB @CaveatLector @myonlinetrust @adamscochran The US can make an extradition request. Maybe it will be denied but if you relocate they could try again. Also, commit an act that is criminal in a foreign country, you can be charged, arrested, prosecuted for, even if the act itself is not criminal in the foreign country
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@JonesMarkLB @gynepareidolia @marcorandazza nobody would ever say "not included are my mom, mother, or mama."
you know it and everyone else knows it. nobody talks that way. thats not how english works. you're playing stupid for shitlib internet points or because you're a botfarm account.
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@Atomixion2 @gynepareidolia @marcorandazza ….what difference do you think that makes in the sentence?
foreigners who are families of ambassadors or foreign ministers accredited to the US government
aliens who are families of ambassadors or foreign ministers accredited to the US government
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@gynepareidolia @JonesMarkLB @marcorandazza Youre just wrong and playing stupid.
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Atomixion@Atomixion2
@JonesMarkLB @gynepareidolia @marcorandazza there would be no reason to list them separately if that were true. "not included are this, this, this or this." hes not saying "not included is this said three differennt ways, this aka this aka this." Thats why the word *or* is there. it's basic english.
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@JonesMarkLB @gynepareidolia @marcorandazza there would be no reason to list them separately if that were true.
"not included are this, this, this or this."
hes not saying "not included is this said three differennt ways, this aka this aka this." Thats why the word *or* is there.
it's basic english.
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@ClayTravis Clay are you just discovering that China and the United States are different countries with different laws?
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An American citizen’s baby can’t become a Chinese citizen by being born on the soil of China. Can anyone explain why a Chinese citizen’s baby should be able to become an American citizen by being born on the soil here? It’s absolute insanity.
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@CaveatLector @myonlinetrust @adamscochran …let’s simplify this for you.
do you think you are subject to arrest by the U.S. government while in a foreign country for breaking a US law?
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@myonlinetrust @adamscochran > born in the US and subject to the jurisdiction thereof just means born in the US and in the US
It doesn't, though. US citizens REMAIN subject to US jurisdiction even when they're not "in the US", just like for pretty much every other country.
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@JonesMarkLB @NSGod @ReichlinMelnick Did you know that illegal aliens aren't allowed to be employed in the USA?
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Because that’s not true. “Subject to the jurisdiction thereof” excludes a narrow set of children whose parents are NOT fully under U.S. jurisdiction:
- Diplomats (diplomatic immunity)
- Native Americans (Quasi-sovereign nations)
- Occupying soldiers (U.S. gov not in control)
Marc J. Randazza 🇺🇸 🇮🇹 🇧🇷@marcorandazza
why not just write it without the highlighted text, if it means the same thing with or without the highlighted text?
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@T_Whiz @NSGod @ReichlinMelnick …what in the world even led you to the belief that they can’t do so?
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