@el_g95 It will undoubtedly be the best horse in this race, and should win, but I'm still not fully convinced on the trip. I thought the run over shorter three starts back was the best
Why on earth is Star Cast 12-1 in the first at Newcastle?! Thought the win was better than it looked last week, tougher race this but should still be well handicapped. The problem is inconsistency, but back out just a week later under the penalty suggests they think they can
@charlie_deluchi And I only need to be right a few times to make it pay. People can't understand that I'm expecting a 50-1 with form of 0000 to lose, and run accordingly, but I know the 50s should be 20s because something has been missed so I'll win long term 😂
@charlie_deluchi It's why I really try to stress that they're all punts. I wish I could back the top end of the market, but it's harder. I focus on c5/6 cos I know nobody else will, and the markets are lazy. I look for the slightest angle that I know nobody else will even consider
I know the vast majority of my horses look no hopers on paper, and most are as I'm not trying to find the most likely winner, and I'll take criticism pre race. But popping up after the race is shite 😂 it takes balls to put them up when my angle results in most being stuffed
@UKFlatRacing Will have a look mate. Tbh this is a race I'd completely avoid normally as it's far too competitive and any of 5/6 can win. They're nightmares, I like uncompetitive races that something overlooked can get into
@Mathewforthh I’m not sure today’s the day, as was expecting them to find an easier race but I’m sure they’re lining Toronto Raptor up for something. Watch the race back from 19/09, last year. FT blinkers on & would have gone v close if jockey wanted it to. Not backed it, so no doubt goes in
@el_g95 Yes, but Kaiya Fraser was on the day and this horse is very inconsistent. The win last time was very impressive, and out under the penalty suggests they're confident they've still got it right.
It's more a price bet tbf, 12-1 is far too big
@Mathewforthh Star Cast & Golspie both behind Mao Shang Wong when only went down a length to Mr Nugget won off 70 beaten a neck off 73 later on
Jolly just wins off 65 imo Tudhope/O’meara strikerate at newcastle something serious in these handicaps am sure (don’t quote me on that)
And your average bloke on here can't understand why you'd tolerate that, but when a 50-1 shot runs like most 50-1 shots do, and you've offered no counter argument pre race, then I just can't take it seriously
@charlie_deluchi The video played automatically, and from the first few seconds of wondering why Luke Morris was riding at Sedgefield I knew it was justified 😂
@Bettingbluew It also appears he's tipping horses AM that were bigger the night before, and the same PM horse at shorter odds in the AM for that service.
So I can't really see anything that justifies it
I genuinely think this is one of the worst tipping things I've seen. It's astounding. Charging double just to post tips on the morning. Surely any respectable service would just charge 40 and say some tips up at 5 pm(🤢), some at 10am? Even if you want to record separately?
@bettinggeekz Yeah I am as nobody ever seems to get info on the buried ones, but claiming to have access to something like this, with that quote 😂, and not having a penny on and choosing it give it to any old folk on here makes it more even unbelievable that it was ever was
@Mathewforthh Price doesn’t really come into it. I thought it would open 8/13 maximum tbh. But what am I going to do … play in the shop when it’s 1/2 5 mins before the off ?
@bettinggeekz So you have access to gold dust info like that, and instead of even going to a shop to have the lot on, you fill in an empty bet slip and let me have it?
Nowt to do with it being a shortie that should have won last time 😂
@BenQuealyRacing Was keen as anything though, with a poor jockey on, and given the horse hung when asked previously I'd be inclined to believe, until I'm proven wrong later 😂, that he didn't really want to go after it as not sure what was left
@Mathewforthh If you're correct, and all he is doing is "cashing in twice", then in a capitalistic market like this the service wont survive and will soon close as people vote with their wallets.
@Betting_Wolf Oh yeah completely agree, my point was more the impact you can have on markets can be just about the same now when it wasn't a few years back
@Mathewforthh The efficiency is substantially different in my opinion, but you can see that from most tipsters results when you come evening services to morning services across different tipsters (... or even the same tipsters in this case! haha)