RAD ❁@RADrebel43
It is you that doesn't understand.
The viral claims exaggerated a real but boring administrative problem (old records without death dates + some default/error dates making people look ancient) into proof of enormous, ongoing fraud. Actual benefit payments to these "zombie" records were negligible, and the cleanup was more housekeeping than exposing a criminal conspiracy. This became a flashpoint in debates over DOGE's methods, data handling, and whether the "fraud" discoveries were overhyped for political effect.
The "Social Security error" you're likely referring to (from the DOGE-related discussions on X, including claims about people born in the 1700s/1800s or impossibly old like 150+ years) stems from a widely publicized but heavily misrepresented issue in the Social Security Administration's (SSA) records.
Here's a clear breakdown of what actually happened and why it's not evidence of massive ongoing fraud like "vampires" or people born before the U.S. was founded collecting benefits:
👉The Core Database Issue -
SSA maintains the Numident file, which records every Social Security number ever issued, along with details like name, date of birth, and (when known) date of death.
👉A 2023 SSA Inspector General audit found ~18.9 million records for people born in 1920 or earlier with no death date recorded. Many of these dated back decades (pre-electronic death reporting), so the records simply lacked updated death info.👆👆👆
👉In some cases, incomplete or missing birth dates caused the system to default to a very old reference date (e.g., something like 1875 or earlier in certain error-handling logic, often tied to legacy COBOL-based systems). 👆👆👆👆👆
👉This made queried records appear to show people aged 120–150+ (or even 300+ in extreme cases) if no death was on file.
👉Key Facts That Debunk the Fraud Narrative
👉Almost none of these ultra-old records were actively receiving benefits.
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👉SSA automatically stops payments at age 115 (a policy in place since ~2015), and audits found only tiny numbers (e.g., ~13 cases over 112, or ~44,000 over 100 in older reports) still getting checks — usually due to delayed death reporting, not organized fraud. 👆👆👆👆👆👆👆👆👆👆👆
👉No credible evidence showed widespread improper payments to "dead people" at scale using these records. Actual improper payments in SSA (overpayments, underpayments, etc.) exist but are estimated in the low billions annually, not tens/hundreds of billions from immortal beneficiaries.
DOGE/Elon Musk mistakenly highlighted screenshots and counts of these "alive" 120+/150+ entries in early 2025, calling it massive fraud (e.g., "biggest heist in history," vampires collecting checks).
👉 Fact-checks from sources like Wired, AP, BBC, PolitiFact, and SSA officials clarified it was mostly outdated/incomplete legacy data — not active payouts to the long-dead. 👆👆👆👆👆
👉Later Developments
By early/mid-2025, DOGE/SSA efforts marked millions of these 120+ records as deceased in a cleanup (e.g., ~9–10 million reported in March 2025 announcements).
👉This was presented by supporters as a big win against fraud, but critics pointed out it largely addressed a known issue from prior IG reports rather than uncovering new, hidden corruption.
There was no fraud.
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