Neil Owen
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Neil Owen
@CyberNeil
Imperfect Jesus Follower - Truth Seeker - Lifelong Early Adopter - Tesla Advocate - FSD Beta Tester since 2021 - Husband - Father - Grandfather - Friend to Many
Tennessee USA 가입일 Mayıs 2008
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@CyberNeil @cybertruck Right now you are paying extra for the subscription.
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After 6,000+ miles, FSD has officially warped my brain. I now inherently trust FSD more than my own perception.
Today, when my @cybertruck made a couple unexpected moves during a 350-mile trip, I asked myself “What does FSD see that I’m missing?” instead of questioning “Why did it do that?” Both times it was reacting to things before I was aware of them.
Thanks, @Tesla_AI — Awesome work!
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Dude, You are crazy prolific with your words!!
Sorry for your pain. I actually understand. I had 3 Tesla’s with FSD that I purchased outright and never received a transfer.
I assure you that the dream that we bought into is HERE. Also, I believe that Tesla will do right by you, but it might take a little longer. Solving for self-driving was obviously more complex and has taken longer than anyone thought.
Best wishes on your quest!
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I have version 12.6.4, Elon says a lot but he has forgotten about the ones that bought FSD before it was a thing and even beta tested it. If it wasn’t for ppl like me that supported his early R&D we wouldn’t have V14 and I don’t want some dumbed down version of it. Can’t even transfer it to a new Tesla anymore, like why not I paid for it I should be able to decide if I want it to stay with the car or be transferred. $10k & I don’t own the rights to it and I have a shitty version of it and probably can never have its full capabilities. Thank you for being sympathetic to my situation, most just say I’m a hater or lying. So now I document my experience so maybe it will get Tesla off their asses and actually address the issue of the HW3 customers.
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I’ve reached that level a while back. I used to challenge it and take control, only to realize I was wrong. In some cases, it was more dangerous when I took control because the Tesla saw what I couldn’t.
Neil Owen@CyberNeil
After 6,000+ miles, FSD has officially warped my brain. I now inherently trust FSD more than my own perception. Today, when my @cybertruck made a couple unexpected moves during a 350-mile trip, I asked myself “What does FSD see that I’m missing?” instead of questioning “Why did it do that?” Both times it was reacting to things before I was aware of them. Thanks, @Tesla_AI — Awesome work!
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@RickD747 @cybertruck Sorry. All paid up. I have a full time chauffeur for years to come that doesn’t get tired and is 7 times safer than typical drivers. He’s also getting better every day.
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@BobsBombBuds @SouthHampUpper1 @cybertruck I’m sorry to hear your situation. What version of FSD are you using? Unfortunately, AI3 currently doesn’t support FSD 14.2, so it is lagging functionally. Tesla is working to port FSD14 to AI3 and it’s expected to arrive in Q2 2026. Good luck!
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@BruceHardy57 @cybertruck 💯 Two of my kids also drive Teslas. They’re the safest vehicles on the road.
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For 2 1/2 years and 2 Model Y’s, I’ve driven FSD almost exclusively. I’ve watched it mature to the point that I absolutely trust FSD more than my own driving skills.
FSD sees everything at once, it reacts faster, it navigates better, it allows me to relax and enjoy travel. I wouldn’t have my family in anything but a Tesla with FSD.
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@RickD747 @cybertruck The 99% will care when they’re paying twice as much for insurance as our self driving cars. 🤣
tesla.com/fsd/safety
lemonade.com/fsd
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@CyberNeil @cybertruck I'm looking forward to the day when Tesla owners will figure out that 99% of the population doesn't care about your self driving car.
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@SouthHampUpper1 @cybertruck Hopefully bad drivers will start using FSD and lives will be saved. FSD has driven an over 8.9 BILLION miles and shown that it has 7X fewer collisions that the typical driver. tesla.com/fsd/safety
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@CyberNeil @cybertruck I manage CDL drivers in the USA.
I watch 1000's of hours of footage every week.
I see bad drivers all of the time.
All.of.the.time.
Let those of us who know how to drive, to do it ourselves.
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Thanks for your comment. I appreciate your perspective. Spell-check elevated everyone’s ability to spell and helps people to communicate better.
I look forward to the day that everyone (even bad drivers like me) can be elevated to being good or great drivers (like yourself).
Our roads will be safer and lives will be saved which is the ultimate goal.
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Yeah, I have watched dashcam videos of FSD and posters say identical things to what you say.
Then I watch the dash video and *I* can clearly see, ***before the FSD***, what it is they 'saw' that you did not.
To be very blunt - you are a bad driver, you have always been a bad driver, and now FSD is better than you are and showing you what a better driver would perform like. Because it is tech, you accept this.
If *I* were to make those suggestions, you would categorize me as 'a back seat driver'.
I encounter people like you, on the road, every 5 minutes.
What I am doing is pre-emptively looking for known possible areas where collisions etc could arise from. I know where those would be and thus I am scanning pro-actively for those locations and expecting the chance of something popping up there.
You never have, the FSD does, and then you wonder what 'it saw'.
I spend all day driving avoiding bad drivers such as yourself who cannot predict where issues would arise on the road.
FSD now reveals that you were always a bad driver, and the person I have to look out for when I am on the road.
Also reveals that good drivers are better than FSD.
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@MikeFilm3 @cybertruck Usually FSD does great with turn arrows, but I have used the accelerator on rare occasion to force FSD to move. As long as I don’t grab the wheel, FSD stays engaged.
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@CyberNeil @cybertruck Do you have issues with FSD recognizing green turn arrows? It continues to happen at a specific traffic light near my home. The car just sits there while people behind me get irritated and I have to take over.
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@CyberNeil @wholemars @cybertruck I need a “show me why you just did that” button because sometimes I don’t ever see what it saw.
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@auroraquirks @cybertruck Usually I don’t have much of an issue with standard speeding that much, but there have been a few instances. I use the right scroll-wheel to downshift into “chill” or (heaven forbid) “sloth” mode and that solves the problem.
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@CyberNeil @cybertruck How do you reconcile the FSD doing 67-69 mph in a 55 mph highway? This is under Standard profile. There needs to be a fix for that…
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💯FSD’s human-like courtesy astounds me. Recently, when queuing up at red light FSD left a space in front of me for a car going the opposite direction to turn into a parking lot. It recognized the car’s turn signal, paused, left the vehicle pass in front of me, then proceeded to close the gap. I received a friendly wave that I honestly had no involvement in. 😅
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I had a similar moment. It slowed down in front of a crosswalk and I said where is the pedestrian? I scanned for 5 - 10 seconds before I finally saw them, not in the crosswalk but crossing half a block behind the crosswalk.
On earlier builds I might have thought it was just slowing for no good reason. By now I know to look hard to make sure it’s not seeing something I missed.
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My friend! It’s great to hear from you and congratulations on your CT order! We’re on our 4th Tesla. A MY, then MX, a Foundation Series CT, and finally a M3. @cybertruck is the best by far. It’s my daily driver and tows our 27ft Airstream like butter. Also, I’m an avid shareholder of both Tesla and SpaceX.
Yes, we have a five year old granddaughter. I highly recommend grandchildren. How are you and your family?! Give me a call sometime. I still have the same number and would love to reconnect.
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@CyberNeil @cybertruck Neil! It’s been so long! I have a Cybertruck “in production”, my third Tesla. I had no idea we had this shared interest. But I’m not surprised!
We should talk to get your Cybertruck tips. But also, “grandfather”!? 🤯
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@Joe28753 @cybertruck Hopefully, the v14 branch will propagate to HW3 soon. It’s sublime!
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@CyberNeil @cybertruck My HW3 still phantom brakes at random road signs like junction or curve ahead signs. Consistently. Same places every day.
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@scottbuscemi @cybertruck I definitely appreciate how FSD avoids road hazards now. Previously, those were the majority of my disengagements. Hopefully “skid mark recognition” will be added in the near future. 😅
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@CyberNeil @cybertruck Agreed. Except for the time my car moved over for a shadow today lmao
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@ST0RM_B0RN @wholemars @cybertruck Yes. It’s more courteous than I am usually. It’s good to be the nice guy.
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@CyberNeil @wholemars @cybertruck Same. I’ve had a couple instances where it pauses too long at a stop sign or in a parking lot and I override with accelerator only to see people waiting to cross after the fact. Now I trust that when it’s pausing, there is a reason. It’s way more polite than most drivers 😆
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@NandinoAI @wholemars @cybertruck Fascinating. Thanks for that information. It’s actually been a profound change for me.
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6,000 miles is roughly where the calibration flips in every human-AI trust study. the system's reaction time is ~200ms, human perception sits at 500ms+. at that delta, the rational move is trusting the faster sensor array. the interesting part is the psychological shift: you stopped debugging the AI and started debugging yourself. that's the adoption inflection point for every AI tool, not just FSD.
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