Shaya Bell

@prinkasusa Sure..But if you don't want kids yet still expect a man to provide for you and subsidize your life, then yes, you're probably selfish and those things would apply. The whole point of a man providing for a woman is becaue she is or will be the mother of his children.

WOMEN 👏 WHO 👏 DON'T 👏 WANT 👏 KIDS 👏 - aren't selfish - are not less of a woman - aren't immature - won't necessarily change her mind - won't necessary be a "lonely old cat lady" which is a disgusting patriarchal stereotype - don't owe you any explanation whatsoever

@hcetamd @BrianAtlas Believe me, I get it..and it's the reason why I'm skeptical about long term relationships myself. I'm just saying this to prove most guys are in this situation and will never know it..and if I was to date long term again, I wouldn't do it with rose tinted glasses

@FishofDiamonds @BrianAtlas And because of this, I assume that all women will lie to me to get what they want and feel completely justified in doing so. I fail to see the point in getting into any sort of relationship with such a woman.

BRUTAL RED PILL...

@ObviousDick @BrianAtlas Exactly..If they were exclusive within a month and she wasn't flaking on him and lying about the reason why, then it's salvageable. She probably was fucking the FWB and not him during the talking phase because she haven't built that physical connection/trust with him yet

@FishofDiamonds @BrianAtlas Agree with this - to me, it would depend on how that build to exclusivity went - and what I was doing or did during it. Without knowing the facts, I'd assume he was really into her, dropped everything, and pursued hard. When told, that ruined the relationship for him.

@thenomadrhodes @BrianAtlas Unless everything else was absolutely perfect..Yep, she'd be a FWB lol

@FishofDiamonds @BrianAtlas Fwb?

@DaDevil08262135 @BrianAtlas I said I would consider it depending on the situation. The point I'm trying to make is a lot of men are in this same situation but dont know it because the woman lacks the honesty to tell them. I don't do LTRs anymore because the bar is in hell, but integrity from a woman is rare

@FishofDiamonds @BrianAtlas And because of people like you women like this exist! Because they know they can do whatever they want, some sucker is still without any standards who will take her on anyway!

@blacksmith224 @BrianAtlas I could see why you'd believe that

@FishofDiamonds @BrianAtlas Sounds like you are a desperate simp

@cringeinthewind @BrianAtlas I understand this. I'm not saying this situation is ideal nor am I saying I'd definitely stay with her. The point I'm trying to make is a lot of men are playing with broken toys. The girl just never told them. Her integrity to tell the truth is worth considering.

@FishofDiamonds @BrianAtlas Alot of men dont like "broken toys", dosnt mater if you fix it, they dont want to play with it. Same thing here. Its like someone dipping their nutsack in your soup, to the person eating it, there is no fixing it.

@Neekstylez1 @BrianAtlas Word. A lot of these dudes are assuming I think this is the ideal situation to be in. The point I'm trying to make is many of them have probably already dealt with something like this but the girl just never told them

@FishofDiamonds @BrianAtlas Yep. Agreed. This is why I always say women should tell the truth. They will find a man who accepts it. Imagine falling deep in love but you lied, then he finds out 3 years later and boom yall both wasted all that time or even longer bc now he just hates you but stays miserably.

@Neekstylez1 @BrianAtlas I'd probably be out in that case, especially if we haven't moved in together or had any kids. My logic of considering staying with her is that she has a conscience of telling the truth when doing fuckery. To go a whole year without saying shit kinda negates that.

@FishofDiamonds @BrianAtlas What if she initially lied then a year later the truth comes out ?

@SpaceNomad68858 @etodiike @BrianAtlas He chose not to be with her anymore...which is fine too

@FishofDiamonds @etodiike @BrianAtlas He didn't punish her, he simply saved himself and helped a lot of young men realize that a lot of Women do this anyway without telling anyone.

@DProfessor699 @Kcmo_yo @BrianAtlas Not necessarily. Personally, I'm skeptical about LTRs in general. I'm just saying this because most dudes have been in the same situation and just never knew it.

@FishofDiamonds @Kcmo_yo @BrianAtlas And this is okey with you??

@VforVeritas @BrianAtlas I never said this was my standard. I'm just posing the hypothetical with elements of modern dating. Thanks for the help though

@FishofDiamonds @BrianAtlas You know what will always be foreign to you with your mentality, a successful long term marriage. Get better standards.

@etodiike @BrianAtlas If it was subconscious shit test, then yeah that would be the case. But there's a difference between being cool with it and punishing her but not dissolving the relationship. If you do decide to stay, you'd definitely need to do the latter.

@FishofDiamonds @BrianAtlas That was a shit test that she didn't even know she was giving at that point. If he acted cool with it, that old fwb will not be "old" for too long anymore

@wertn0g @BrianAtlas I'm not saying make it easy for her. Checkout and fallback until she regains your trust so she'll think twice before doing something again. My point is whatever compelled her to tell you in the first place is rare, because most women won't unless they think you already know.

@FishofDiamonds @BrianAtlas "Oh wow, he's okay with it? Maybe he'll be okay with it later too." C'mon bud, she wouldn't have stopped.

@Kcmo_yo @BrianAtlas I'm not dating a woman for "months" without sleeping with her. Last time I did that, I was a virgin in high school. If you meet a girl and y'all are in the early talking stage, there's a chance she's fucking someone you don't know about and she'll stop when she's attached to you.

@FishofDiamonds @BrianAtlas So you date for months, she won't fuck you but she'll fuck a fling and that just isn't an issue for you? Have some self respect dude.

@VforVeritas @BrianAtlas I'm not disagreeing with you. Personally, I'm skeptical about most LTR's. My point is if I ever decided to be in another one, this behavior wouldn't be foreign to me.

@FishofDiamonds @BrianAtlas Because other woman engage in this major red flag, doesn’t mean it’s any less of a red flag. This is not marriage level behavior and because you say most woman do this helps explain why most marriages fail.

@whodafuqdisssss @GeneralSw1ft @BrianAtlas Like I said, personally I'd do ever thing I could to mitigate being in a situation like this if I did decide to do LTRs again. I'm just saying a lot of men are in this situation and will never know it

@FishofDiamonds @GeneralSw1ft @BrianAtlas I hear you. I went through a period of my life where I accepted this behavior too. It just seems logical. Sure, we're all dating, lots of sex, this and that. No big deal right? I'm secure. But it's not like that for them. They get ran through and do not recover like we do.

@365footy247 @BrianAtlas A cuck is someone who willing let another man fuck his woman. They weren't exclusive in this situation and he had no idea until she told him..The same you have no idea this has ever happened to you

@FishofDiamonds @BrianAtlas No, a lot of women don’t do this. You’re a cuck chair hype man.

@whodafuqdisssss @BrianAtlas Generally, the way women get over an attachment is getting attached to someone new..which again, is what I believe happened here. If you've ever initiated a breakup, you'll see this play out. Your ex will be attached to you until she finaly get an orgasm from another guy lol

@FishofDiamonds @BrianAtlas It can happen to men and work out. I cannot happen to women and work out. I am not saying this to uphold some artificial double standard. Women are biologically not capable of it. They experience sex in a different way. Men and women are not the same.

@whodafuqdisssss @GeneralSw1ft @BrianAtlas Don't get me wrong...I'd definitely have my suspicions and I'd probably mentally checkout to a certain extent, but part of me would respect her honesty because most women wouldn't have the integrity to tell you unless they think you already know.

@FishofDiamonds @GeneralSw1ft @BrianAtlas It's not going to work man. If you think this worked for you at some point you just never found out what was really going on.