2goth4U (DJ Vortex)
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2goth4U (DJ Vortex)
@GothiousRex
INTP - Goth - DJ - Rules Guru and former L2 Judge for M:tG - Autistic
Vancouver BC 가입일 Kasım 2012
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@Canucks @Sportsnet and the winner is.... @NHLFlames
dropping @Canucks to #16 honouring Trevor Linden.
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@Kyle_DorseyX @IMagicF @Dunkatog @HanweirGarrison It does care where it goes, it has to go to exile or the field. Shuffling a card from your graveyard into your library wouldn't trigger Ket.
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@IMagicF @Dunkatog @HanweirGarrison Ketramose only cares about the card leaving, not where it’s going. Same as the example above.
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@Dunkatog so we’re getting a third card in standard that triggers off cards leaving the graveyard. If it’s a creature being reanimated and there’s a torpor orb effect out, should the leave the graveyard ability trigger?
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Piotr 'kanister' Głogowski@kanister_mtg
An interesting rules scenario brought up by @Xerk_MTGO ! Villain controls Doorkeeper Thrull. My Young Wolf dies. Should my Dredger's Insight trigger as we resolve Wolf's Undying ability? After all, it leaves the graveyard... to enter the battlefield... Discuss!
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@Dunkatog @HanweirGarrison Essentially, the result matches the conditions of the effect so the zone-change triggers are affected whether coming or going.
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@Dunkatog @HanweirGarrison "from anywhere" trigger on game state after, not before, yet those three still alter the triggering if they're present after.
In the same way, SK triggers on game state before, not after, the same rationale is applied here if Orb is present after.
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@R0b0am Hmm... that does seem inconsistent. I'll have to investigate that.
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@Dunkatog If an opponent controls Blind Obedience and I cast an Overlord for its impending cost, would it enter tapped?


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@Dunkatog
At speed 4, I can't tap Endrider Catalyzer for mana in exile so clearly Max Speed does not function in exile per the Release Notes.
Matt says something different. Confusing.
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@TheoMoudakis @TorontoStar It might not please the Danes who have designs on purchasing California from the US.
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@Dunkatog
How does Hofri Ghostforge's trigger work with merged permanents dying?
If one or more of the components aren't exiled by the trigger, others are, is the token created?
118.12 seems to say "yes" whereas 118.3 seems to say "no".
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@Dunkatog
For Henzie, is the second ability applying directly to the alternative cost or is it a normal reduction?
For Aminatou, is alternative cost set with mana cost - (4) or an alternative cost of mana cost with a (4) reduction applied to the casting? Defenders of Humanity?
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@Dunkatog
There's an argument as to whether or not 118.12 applies to Mr. Foxglove's trigger.
If I Dredge or otherwise replace the draws such that I don't end up drawing, do I get the "if didn't" effect or not?
118.12 says no if applicable.
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@Dunkatog
Printlifter Ooze trigger.
The condition for "another creature is turned face up", is that a retro trigger excluding permanents returned by Yedora or a normal trigger excluding noncreature permanents resulting?
If it's the latter, perhaps use "becomes face up"?
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@Dunkatog
Test case: Rhythm of the Wild and other creatures entering simultaneously while Opalescence is out.
As written, RotW can give itself Riot, but not the creatures entering with it and I don't think that is intended. None of them should get Riot.
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@Dunkatog
In rule 614.12, the phrase "continuous effects from the permanent's own static abilities that would apply to it once it's on the battlefield", I believe it should say "would apply only to it".
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Why would anyone listen to @elonmusk with regards to voting advice?
The guy's a billionaire, he's not at all like most voters.
#USElection2024
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@WotC_Matt @InfiniTokens The copy will pull "the Offspring cost was paid" from the original, but it should only have Offspring if the copy has it innately as part of its copiable values. Offspring added by Zinnia shouldn't be copied per 708.2 nor would the copy have it from Zinnia.
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@RagingLevine I have a mostly monoblack deck built around it, Sheodred and Phyrexian Arena. I added red solely to slot in Return the Favor after being Vraska'd in my first game with the deck.
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@RagingLevine
Duskmourn question.
Is The Master of Keys + Secret Arcade intended to be a combo or a nonbo?
Can a player use Escape from a nonenchantment permanent card to begin casting it given that it will be an enchantment spell on the stack?
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