RedJake
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Tonight to celebrate homophobic "pride," I'm going to look up the term "homophobia" with wagers being taken that it was created by a Jew.
R4R Live now
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@StephenKokx Why are you such a vile person and such a fake Catholic?
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It is quite telling that George Weigel used his anti-SSPX diatribe to show fealty to his Jewish backers. Implying the 'Old Covenant' is still salvific is one of the most hateful things a Catholic can do. firstthings.com/the-sspx-leade…
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@thelb236 @ThxTom90228 Cite your Fenandez source, verbatim, in context.
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@ThxTom90228 So why is Fernandez admitting there are still points that need clarified in Vatican 2 if everything has been “answered”, Sam?
LB236@thelb236
Exactly. Why, if Fernandez ostensibly admits in his communique to the SSPX from February that there are still points of doctrine of Vatican 2 that need to be clarified, hasn’t this happened by now? (The cynic in me suspects no one in Rome knows how to clarify things without admitting there’s complete discontinuity.)
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The majority of people commenting against the SSPX today clearly know nothing about the history of the matter or the doctrinal questions that have arisen as a result. If they did, they wouldn't be screaming "Submit to authoritah!" whenever one asks them to list precisely what new teachings Vatican 2 binds on the faithful that they were not obligated to believe in 1962.
It's really quite sad.
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@pontificatormax No, he's merely spouting sheer nonsense. Shameful.
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Sensus fidelium. 76% said 'no.' 🙏
Stephen Kokx@StephenKokx
Would you let Leo teach your children Sunday school?
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@TradCathSermons "Non-binding" LOL.
The Catholic Church *never* claimed it was "non-binding," and only the ignorant would ever claim it did.
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Look at that! A conciliar pope has finally admitted Vatican II DID change dogma and is NOT just a non-binding pastoral council.
If the SSPX hadn't cornered them with the consecrations, it never would have happened.
But! Now the SSPX can no longer deny the conciliar Church is a
Catholic Sat@CatholicSat
Pope Leo XIV on the upcoming SSPX Episcopal Consecrations: “I am considering making another appeal saying don't do this, let's try to live the communion of the Church. But it's their choice. One must realize what it means for them and for the Church. Certainly, the division among Christians is a painful point. However, they refuse to accept some fundamental elements of the Church, starting with several points from the Second Vatican Council. If they make that decision, I'm sorry but we have to move on.”
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@EsquireCatholic He's 100 percent correct. Maybe you should learn what the Church teaches.
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What a reckless absurd statement. These Trad Inc. pseudo-legalists always think they can outsmart God by riding both sides of the fence.
Eric Sammons@EricRSammons
While I hope and pray the Vatican will extend mercy and approve the SSPX consecrations, I also would warn SSPX attendees that they're playing a dangerous game if they continue to receive SSPX confessions after any excommunications.
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@kennedyhall The greatest pope of the 20th Century--Pope St. John Paul II.
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Take a guess, which pope said this: It is important that Muslims and Christians continue to explore philosophical and theological questions together, in order to come to a more objective and comprehensive knowledge of each others’ religious beliefs. Better mutual understanding will surely lead, at the practical level, to a new way of presenting our two religions not in opposition, as has happened too often in the past, but in partnership for the good of the human family.
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@JacobusRufus @kennedyhall Actually, Kennedy Hall is one of the most astute Catholic commentators on X, with a very sharp ear for the implications of what is said.
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He is implying that Vatican II started a new religion...
'Fundamental elements of the Church'... which is somehow Vatican II.
This is to say that Vatican II was a new foundation for the Church -- different than the one that came before.
Michael Haynes 🇻🇦@MLJHaynes
BREAKING: Pope Leo on the SSPX consecrations — “I am considering making another appeal and saying ‘don't do this, let's try to live the communion of the Church.’ But it is their choice. We must realize what it means for them and for the Church. Certainly, the division among Christians is a painful point. However, they refuse to accept some fundamental elements of the Church, starting with several points of the Second Vatican Council. If they make that choice, I am sorry. But we must move forward”
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@EsquireCatholic Hey Captain Obvious, since when did anyone pretend the conflict was NOT about Vatican II, since, you know, the dissent of the SSPX began after Vatican II and because of Vatican II?
The Cafeteria Catholicism of the SSPX is merely dying a slow and painful death. Godspeed.
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Leo concedes the SSPX issue is entirely about Vatican II. It’s the best thing that could have a happened for the Traditional movement.
Niwa Limbu@NiwaLimbu1988
SSPX 48.0: Pope Leo has commented on the SSPX impending Consecrations “I am considering making another appeal and saying ‘don’t do this, let’s try to live the communion of the Church.’ But it is their choice. We must realize what it means for them and for the Church."
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@MattGaspers @Pontifex Maybe you should learn the real meaning of terms like pastoral, disciplinary, and non-definitive before spouting off your nonsensical views publicly.
Also learn the meaning of religious submission of intellect and will.
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To my knowledge, this is the first time @Pontifex has publicly addressed the upcoming SSPX episcopal consecrations since Fr. Pagliarani made his announcement over four months ago.
Here is the question Pope Leo needs to answer (from Bishop Schneider):
“Why is the unconditional acceptance of the texts of Vatican II presented as a conditio sine qua non for full communion with the Holy See, while no comparable requirement exists with respect to the pastoral, disciplinary, or non-definitive teachings of the preceding twenty Ecumenical Councils?”
Michael Haynes 🇻🇦@MLJHaynes
BREAKING: Pope Leo on the SSPX consecrations — “I am considering making another appeal and saying ‘don't do this, let's try to live the communion of the Church.’ But it is their choice. We must realize what it means for them and for the Church. Certainly, the division among Christians is a painful point. However, they refuse to accept some fundamental elements of the Church, starting with several points of the Second Vatican Council. If they make that choice, I am sorry. But we must move forward”
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@LepantoInst @BasedOrcRemover Your profound ignorance of the Catholic faith isn't the pope's problem as much as it is your own problem.
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@BasedOrcRemover How about - WE don’t know what he’s talking about.
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"they refuse to accept some fundamental elements of the Church, starting with several points from the Second Vatican Council" - Pope Leo.
For the sake of absolute clarity on this issue, please name those points explicitly as necessary points of doctrine that binds all the faithful.
Catholic Sat@CatholicSat
Pope Leo XIV on the upcoming SSPX Episcopal Consecrations: “I am considering making another appeal saying don't do this, let's try to live the communion of the Church. But it's their choice. One must realize what it means for them and for the Church. Certainly, the division among Christians is a painful point. However, they refuse to accept some fundamental elements of the Church, starting with several points from the Second Vatican Council. If they make that decision, I'm sorry but we have to move on.”
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Simply put, Vatican II is contrary to all the other Ecumenical Councils.
Edward Pentin@EdwardPentin
“Today, to be in full communion with the Holy See, one must accept those affirmations and teachings of Vatican II that are pastoral and certainly non-definitive in terms of their magisterial nature. This raises an important question: Why is the unconditional acceptance of the texts of Vatican II presented as a conditio sine qua non for full communion with the Holy See, while no comparable requirement exists with respect to the pastoral, disciplinary, or non-definitive teachings of the preceding twenty Ecumenical Councils?” — Bishop Athanasius Schneider
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What's with the sudden burst of anti-Mormon posts on X? Did I miss something big?
Y'all in the Novus Ordo should stop though, because y'all are supposed to look at the good in other religions and promote it - as your modernist saint John Paul 2 the great said you should do.
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@JohnFKenne49828 @StephenKokx Nah. It's 2026--the low-IQ dude had zero clue about the kind of faith that is to be found today in Africa.
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When asked about the supposed growth of Catholicism in Africa way back in 1991, Archbishop Lefebvre responded:
"It is, unfortunately, not a real progress of Catholicism ... What religion will they have? It will no longer be the Catholic religion, but a kind of religious syncretism with purely external manifestations." wmreview.org/p/lefebvre-las…
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@JacobusRufus @StephenKokx "Archbishop Marcel Lefebvre's time as a missionary in Africa from 1932 until 1959 as a member of the Holy Ghost Fathers—later in 1962, he would be elected their Superior General."
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@StephenKokx What sheer nonsense you are spewing. Learn what the Church teaches.
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Fr. McFarland of the SSPX has a good explanation on this subject. He notes there is no real 'call' to marriage like there is to religious life.
I would add that the post-Vatican II church co-opted the term vocation and redefined how it had been used prior to the 1960s. Gaudium et Spes speaks of the married 'vocation' but does this within the context of the Council's undue exaltation of the lay state/the 'dignity of man.'
This common theme was the Modernist's attempt to diminish the priesthood/hierarchy and to introduce a more democratic church.
"By stressing the role of the laity in the Church, we will reassure the Protestants that we hold something very dear to them"- Cardinal Leo Suenens youtube.com/watch?v=gDWTpp…
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Stephen Kokx@StephenKokx
Marriage is not a vocation. Only religious life is.
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@AlchemicalPhil @timotheeology How about I block your anon self instead. See ya!
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@JacobusRufus @timotheeology Fake? 😂 says the homo with 1 follower and following 1 person. Can you denounce shiva or Krishna for us real quick?
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Homos aren't born, they're made (from homo-rape or woefully shitty parenting)
That's why there's zero genetic component found in case studies, time after time
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