@ralakbar Rutte says...
I stop reading at that part.
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Hoban Washburne ๐จ๐ฆ
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Hoban Washburne ๐จ๐ฆ
@TrueGradient
Space, football and freedom: I will not trade any of them. ๐จ๐ฆ Proud Canadian ๐จ๐ฆ
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์ผ Mart 2015
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NEW!! NATO chief says, weapons still flowing to Ukraine, despite reports that US is considering diverting weapons to the Middle East.
"The โcritical support from the United States into Ukraine paid โfor by โ allies continues to โ flow," Rutte says
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@slantchev I said this when Trump won the last election, I will repeat it:
The USA will end up stopping any support for Ukraine, and selling weapon components to Russia.
Not full systems, but critical components. Mark my words.
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And now, the incompetent corrupt US administration that is peddling โsecurity guaranteesโ against a future Russian aggression by demanding that Ukraine make enormous concessions to the current Russian aggression is also blackmailing Ukraine by threatening to steal weapons we already sold it through the PURL initiative.
The way we are going, we will be establishing Lend-Lease for Russia by the summer and threatening to jointly attack Kyiv by the fall.
Dzis Maksym@DzisMaksym
๐ช๐บ๐บ๐ฆ Zelensky: We in Europe need to have the full capability to produce all types of air defense systems and missiles for them. In particular, means of protection against drones, cruise missiles and ballistics. We cannot rely on the military-industrial complex of other partners. We must be confident in our own base here in Europe. Please let us continue this work and accelerate it. And while we are building this capacity, please remember that we need protection against Russian missiles every day. And I am grateful to those of you who actively support us within the PURL. This is extremely important.
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@RobLikesJets Agreed. F-35 might be a better fighter, but who cares if you're binding yourself to the whims of the vendor? We need the Gripen.
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Untrustworthy as a weapons supplier within NATO. F35 contract with Canada is one step closer to falling over the cliff. Gripens are a better choice as a northern interceptor for NORAD commitments, however the rest of the fleet for NATO is at risk because of the U.S. itself.
Illia Ponomarenko ๐บ๐ฆ@IAPonomarenko
I mean, how the hell is this even legal? Was it part of the contract that the seller is entitled to say โscrew you and the money you've paid us, we're talking these weapons for ourselvesโ?
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@ShaunPinnerUA Not even "funds allocated". It's money paid by Europe/Canada as part of PURL. It was never American money.
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Itโs getting beyond a joke, you can now actually steal funds allocated to Ukraine?
Illia Ponomarenko ๐บ๐ฆ@IAPonomarenko
I mean, how the hell is this even legal? Was it part of the contract that the seller is entitled to say โscrew you and the money you've paid us, we're talking these weapons for ourselvesโ?
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@JSchneid99 @amanpour We know, but reality is that nobody outside of the US counts the votes. Do you count how many voted for Orbรกn b4 saying Hungary does this or that? Again, nothing personal ๐.
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@TrueGradient @amanpour I agree, the stain of dump will definitely outlive me and likely my children. But we have to start somewhere.
For what it's worth, it wasn't half of the country that voted dump in - it was a plurality. But it pains me that we had so many bigots vote for a bigot.
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@anders_aslund The really important piece now is, how serious is the rest of NATO (the US is essentially out it) about Art 5?
New NATO, ironclad commitment: if the Baltics are attacked, the rest respond militarily. Otherwise, get out. And weapons production in overdrive, now.
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No NATO country can believe in Article 5 after this Trump statement.
Trump has effectively ended the ultimate objective of NATO. Only the organization remains.
Aaron Rupar@atrupar
Trump: โNATO NATIONS HAVE DONE ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO HELP WITH THE LUNATIC NATION, NOW MILITARILY DECIMATED, OF IRAN. THE U.S.A. NEEDS NOTHING FROM NATO, BUT โNEVER FORGETโ THIS VERY IMPORTANT POINT IN TIME! President DONALD J. TRUMPโ
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@JSchneid99 @amanpour Here in ๐จ๐ฆ, Americans have been friends and family forever. We did love you guys.
But something is broken now. That crazy half of your country is doing all this in your name, showing your flag. That stain will not go away in 222 days. Truly sorry๐โโ๏ธ.
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@TrueGradient @amanpour Many of us do, but are currently powerless to prevent it as Congress is doing nothing about it.
In 222 days, I expect dump to be neutered by an historic election rebuff.
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@RealJohnShoe @amanpour The contract under which NATO paid for it and the US said it would sell it. The contract is called PURL, what you're doing is called stealing money.
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@jimsciutto Jim, time to spell it as it is: we (Canada/Europe/SK/Japan/Taiwan/Australia) are not US allies anymore. We have been dumped.
US allies today: Russia - Belarus - NK - Israel - Gulf states. Those are the guys you hang with.
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What is the strategic consistency in appeasing Russia while it threatens Europe and going to war with Iran as it threatens the Mideast? Each is surrounded by U.S. allies and each has attacked U.S. allies. Moreover, Russia is aiding Iran in the war, including providing intel to attack U.S. forces.
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@Maks_NAFO_FELLA Nonsense. Orbรกn gets a ton of money from the EU, and Russia needs a mole inside it.
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๐ญ๐บ Hungary may leave the EU if Orban wins the elections, โ Hungarian opposition politician Peter Magyar
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@Rix6145 @JayinKyiv The US didn't give ANY F-16s to Ukraine and it only gave 31 old tanks.
I know many great Americans that I love, it's the stupid ones that drive me nuts.
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@JayinKyiv Send Tanks : We did.
Send F16's : We did.
Send Patriots : We did.
Send Javelines : We did.
In return we asked you to accept the reality on the ground that Donbas was lost : You refused.
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So, European nations gathered $750M to buy US weapons for Ukraine, gave the US the money, and now Trump refuses to give them the weapons.
MAKS 25 ๐บ๐ฆ๐@Maks_NAFO_FELLA
๐ค๐บ๐ธ๐บ๐ฆ๐ช๐บ WSJ: Separately, the Pentagon notified Congress on Monday that it intended to divert about $750 million in funding provided by NATO countries through the PURL program to restock the U.S. militaryโs own inventories, rather than to send additional assistance to Ukraine. The first official said it was unclear whether European countries providing their funds for the initiative to bolster Ukraine understood how the money was being spent.
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@atrupar "The island that the UK was very afraid to give us".
Skip the obvious - Trump is as ignorant as they come, and proud of it. The UK was not "giving" DG to the US.
Issue is, how can a person that doesn't even start to understand the problems choose the right solutions?
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Trump: "They shot the now-famous Ireland--- the island that the UK was very afraid to give us."
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@Dr_M_Davis Not just NATO. If Trump is not willing to comply with Art 5, what makes South Korea, Japan or Australia think that their own agreements are secure? ANY agreement with the US, for that matter.
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I suspect that weโre seeing the end of US involvement in NATO. Article 5 can no longer be assumed to be secure. #Putin will be emboldened to become more aggressive along #NATOโs eastern frontier and escalate #Russiaโs hybrid warfare against the Alliance.
This is how the next war in Europe begins.
Faytuks Network@FaytuksNetwork
Trump, in an early-morning outburst, says: โThe U.S.A. needs nothing from NATOโ
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@menotyou1941 @Dr_M_Davis When did Turkey invoke Article 5?
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@Dr_M_Davis A NATO country has been attacked multiple times and yet the rest if the alliance does nothing. That is why NATO is dying.
So when Turkey was attacked and the rest of NATO did nothing, that is why NATO doesn't matter.
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@JayinKyiv Hostile to the US, but friendly to the Trump Organization.
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A week after Trump took sanctions off Belarus, Lukashenko high tails it to North Korea.
Belarus will now act as conduit for all banking for every regime hostile to the US.
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@Teoyaomiquu ๐ฏ
Taurus was a "game changer" in 2023-24 bc Ukraine didn't have medium-range attack capabilities. Now they're developing their own, and at better cost.
A partnership benefits both sides.
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If you ask us which one we pick:
1) financing our homegrown strike drone capabilities without stirring things up inside German political landscape
2) giving us the Taurus stockpile equivalent in cost
We would chose 1. We understand political decisions cost politicians their seats and new politicians are hostile to Ukraine. The funds for drones are also effective and Taurus isn't a game changer in any sense, on top of a very high price the stockpiles are very limited.
Colby Badhwar@ColbyBadhwar
Taurus remains a useful capability that could be added to Ukraine's arsenal. Merz should honor his word.
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@Robert_E_Kelly Hard disagree. One petulant man cannot do it all by himself. He has the support of half of his country. THAT'S what will have to be researched by sociologists and psychologists, not historians.
The fall of empires is interesting, as long as you're not living at that time.
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The alliance which beat communist tyranny is collapsing because of one manโs petulance. Unreal
Future historians will be flabbergasted that Americans gave away two generations of alliance goodwill and friendship for MAGAโs weird cult leader. What an absurd tradeโฆ
Aaron Rupar@atrupar
Trump: โNATO NATIONS HAVE DONE ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO HELP WITH THE LUNATIC NATION, NOW MILITARILY DECIMATED, OF IRAN. THE U.S.A. NEEDS NOTHING FROM NATO, BUT โNEVER FORGETโ THIS VERY IMPORTANT POINT IN TIME! President DONALD J. TRUMPโ
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@IAPonomarenko If they go ahead with it, who's to say they will not just steal the money from any other defence contract on a whim? This would be the final nail in the coffin of any US military sales to any serious country.
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I mean, how the hell is this even legal?
Was it part of the contract that the seller is entitled to say โscrew you and the money you've paid us, we're talking these weapons for ourselvesโ?
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@Tatarigami_UA @Teoyaomiquu Those evil boyars don't let the czar know what's really going on...
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@Teoyaomiquu No, no, you donโt get it. Itโs always some mysterious forces, the deep state, Bidenโs leftovers, unnamed โbad actors,โ shady advisers, maybe even warlocks in a dark towerโฆ but somehow never Trump
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