Based Takes

If you really thought black lives mattered, you'd have burned down a Planned Parenthood instead of a Wendy's.

@RojinOni Yes. Christ won forgiveness for our sins on the cross. And baptism is the means through which we receive that forgiveness.

@based_takes You mean the original sin that Christ already paid for

John 14:6 no one comes to the father except through me

@PrinceOceanusVT @MomoMorning7 Babies inherit original sin. They need baptism as much as anyone does.

@MomoMorning7 Except babies don’t need to be baptised. They have no concept of sin and are therefore pure.

@Zackktually @Robbservations2 @darwintojesus Yes, only Christians accept the resurrection happened because you would be forced to accept Christianity is true once you acknowledge the truth of the Resurrection. Incredible you think this is an own. Also, yes, the tomb wasn't Christ's. It was Joseph's. Jesus was laid there.

@based_takes @Robbservations2 @darwintojesus And no, nobody outside of your cult accepts any resurrection non-sense. There's lots of empty tombs in the world, but none of them belonged to Jesus because he wouldn't even have been interred in to one. He wasn't an important person to the people who were killing him.

This is exactly what it’s like talking to atheists.

@Zackktually @Robbservations2 @darwintojesus You asked me to present an article for a claim I never made. Ehrman accepts the tomb was empty. He doesn't know where the tomb was.

@based_takes @Robbservations2 @darwintojesus I know what your 'point' was trying to convey, but all you did was evoke a name that doesn't actually agree with you at all, and when challenged to provide that article, you clearly have come up empty, because the name you always fall back on, doesn't actually agree with you.

@Zackktually @MarwaneKhalil @Robbservations2 @darwintojesus It’s not 'inference', it’s verification. With 5,800+ manuscripts, it's the highest level of historical certainty even possible. If you reject the Bible because the physical papyrus rotted, you’ve deleted all of ancient history.

@based_takes @MarwaneKhalil @Robbservations2 @darwintojesus You can cross reference until you're blue in the face, you don't have the originals. Doesn't matter if what you have comes 'within decades', they will never be what you need. You can't make claims about something you can't even look at, only infer. You're dishonest as fuck.

@Robbservations2 @Zackktually @darwintojesus I wasn't referencing him as someone who accepted the Gospel Jesus existed. The whole point was to highlight that it's widely accepted the crucifixion occurred and the tomb was empty, even by those who reject Christianity. You are truly braindead.

@based_takes @Zackktually @darwintojesus Are you moron enough to not realize that Bart Ehrman thinks that while a “Historical Jesus” existed, he KNOWS “Gospel Jesus” is a fictional, legendarily embellished, Supermanized character that never existed…. Have you read any of his books, genius?

@Robbservations2 @Zackktually @darwintojesus Paul claimed to be an eyewitness of the Risen Lord in 1 Corinthians 15:8. You have no clue what you're talking about.

@based_takes @Zackktually @darwintojesus PAUL was definitely NOT a witness. You just PROVED you have no clue WTF you are talking about?

@Zackktually @Robbservations2 @darwintojesus And as an aside, you couldn't look more foolish asking for names of people who accept the tomb was empty only to turn around and complain when these names get brought up.

@Zackktually @Robbservations2 @darwintojesus You're missing the point entirely. We don't need to know where the tomb is. The Roman authorities knew where He was buried. They could have stomped out Christianity in the same afternoon if they could have produced a body. They couldn't.

@Zackktually @MarwaneKhalil @Robbservations2 @darwintojesus We have 5,800+ Greek manuscripts, some within decades of the originals. By cross-referencing these, we can verify the text with extreme precision. If you reject this standard, you would also have to discard the history of Plato, Caesar, and the rest of the ancient world.

@based_takes @MarwaneKhalil @Robbservations2 @darwintojesus How could you claim any of it is inerrant if you haven't seen anything original about it? :'d

@Zackktually @Robbservations2 @darwintojesus Accepted by scholars like Bart Ehrman. Criminals were put in tombs evidenced by discovering Jehohanan's ossuary in 1968. It doesn't matter that we don't know which tomb because the Roman authorities did. Peter, James, Mary Magdalene, and Paul were all witnesses. Read Corinthians.

@based_takes @Robbservations2 @darwintojesus 'Widely accepted' by whom? There are several claims as to the location of the 'tomb', first of all. Also, name these witnesses, and from where we can read about these accounts. Why would a troublesome political dissident be buried in a tomb, in that era? (They wouldn't be.)

@Zackktually @MarwaneKhalil @Robbservations2 @darwintojesus No one claimed every copy of Scripture would also be inerrant. The claim is that the original text is inerrant. We have thousands of manuscripts and parallel accounts to indicate this was not a narrative inconsistency in the original text.

@based_takes @MarwaneKhalil @Robbservations2 @darwintojesus A 'scribal slip' hmm? So, then you agree that the bible isn't 100% true and contains contradictions. Nice.

@Robbservations2 @Zackktually @darwintojesus It's widely accepted the crucifixion occurred and the tomb was verifiably empty. Paul invited his audience to question the many living 500 witnesses to the Resurrection within Corinthians.

@based_takes @Zackktually @darwintojesus And….that “substantial evidence “ is?

@MarwaneKhalil @Zackktually @Robbservations2 @darwintojesus 2 Samuel 21:19's account that Elhanan killed Goliath is a scribal slip that exists in the Apograph, not the Autograph. This is is more evident with the context that secondary battles are being listed. 1 Chronicles clarifies Elhanan killed Lahmi's brother.

@based_takes @Zackktually @Robbservations2 @darwintojesus Who Killed Goliath 1 Samuel 17:50 → David killed Goliath. 2 Samuel 21:19 (in the Hebrew) → Elhanan killed Goliath.

@Zackktually @MarwaneKhalil @Robbservations2 @darwintojesus Christians across the millennia have been answering such poor objections. As stated, John refers to God's divine essence, also referenced in 1 Timothy as an unapproachable light. God obviously did not take this form when wrestling with Jacob. Genesis references a theophany.

@based_takes @MarwaneKhalil @Robbservations2 @darwintojesus Ah yes, surely you know better than everyone else. And what of Jacob, who wrestled god in the most literal, physical sense?

@Zackktually @Robbservations2 @darwintojesus Incredible. You completely sidestepped the answers provided and doubled down on your own ignorance. Atheism is such a bafflingly shallow religion. In this entire exchange you failed to post anything of substance. Come back when you're interested in an honest discussion.

@based_takes @Robbservations2 @darwintojesus No proof of existence in the first place is enough proof of nonexistence. Same logic we apply to your god. Prove it and we'll believe you. Moses has no contemporaries, no mentions outside of the bible. It's non-sense, much like Paul.

@MarwaneKhalil @Zackktually @Robbservations2 @darwintojesus It's a contradiction at the most surface level reading possible. In Exodus, Moses did not behold God's unveiled divine essence. Face to face is idiomatic of directness and intimacy. The text itself qualified this with "as a man speaketh unto his friend."

@Zackktually @based_takes @Robbservations2 @darwintojesus Can God be seen? Exodus 33:11 → “The LORD spake unto Moses face to face, as a man speaketh unto his friend.” John 1:18 → “No man hath seen God at any time

@Zackktually @Robbservations2 @darwintojesus Lack of direct archaeology isn't proof of nonexistence. A forger couldn't replicate the specific 13th-century BC treaty formats found in the Law, nor would they give a Jewish hero an Egyptian name like Moses. The time-stamps in the text are too accurate to be myth. Moses existed.

@based_takes @Robbservations2 @darwintojesus Bitch please, you stepped in to these crosshairs. If you're all done rambling, feel free to bow out. Moses didn't exist. There are no extra-biblical sources that even mention him.

@Zackktually @Robbservations2 @darwintojesus Delusional take, but even if it were true it misses the point entirely. Stop posting if you have nothing of substance to add.

@based_takes @Robbservations2 @darwintojesus Moses doesn't exist, buddy. You're babbling.

@Zackktually @Robbservations2 @darwintojesus Christianity was the religion practiced by the Jews of Moses's day. The coming of Christ was prophesied during the Old Testament. Rejecting the fulfillment of these prophecies deviates from the same faith.

@based_takes @Robbservations2 @darwintojesus Judiasm is the foundation upon which your religion is constructed, jackass. The entire bible is written for Israelites, and NO one else.