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@stitchedspider "They are honoring him in the most exciting of ways "

Literally any time anyone on the crew says anything about any character people immediately assume they are going to die. Where are y'all even getting that from here

@ravenjo16 @aestheticsguyy I agree that Gwen definitely has a tough road ahead of her, as she should. I need her to earn her reconciliation with Miles. But I'm curious...what would convincing actually look like to you? What does Gwen have to do?

@dirkdada @aestheticsguyy the slightest mistake of the authors and this relationship will seem superficial, forced and disturbing, Gwen will have to be very convincing not only to Miles but also his fans

Which couple is the best? 🕷️

@BrojayLouw Jesus Christ. Stop it. She is not believing it just because people tell her to. I have explained why at least half a dozen times now. That's it. I'm done. Please go learn about subtext and how facts do not have to be directly stated to exist within a story. Bye

@dirkdada Just because someone tells you something for a while doesn't mean you just believe it. She's listening to people who are also going about it as far as they know. They say that's the case. That doesn't mean it's true. Gwen was susceptible to believe it doesn't mean she just should

I hate Twitter sometimes. Saying this about a 16 year old traumatized girl is disgusting even if she is fictional. Also not even remotely true. Spider-Gwen never dated Peter.

@BrojayLouw You can say that, but that doesn't make it true. It's a fantastical idea, yes, based on fundamental "laws' we don't understand which govern the Web of Life and Destiny. But fantastical ≠ illogical within the confines of the story.

@dirkdada I'm saying it's logically dumb and it's dumb to trust it

@BrojayLouw Miles hasn't figured anything out yet. He's just refused to let his dad die after 5 minutes of mostly strangers convincing him he should. Perfectly understandable reaction from Miles. But he's not yet working with any actual information.

@dirkdada It shouldn't even have gotten that far that only Miles figured it out

@BrojayLouw What options?

@dirkdada Yes but they do have other options through the other Spiderman and their acquaintances.

@BrojayLouw Yes, in the movie. Gwen literally tells us "In every other universe...." She is referring to all the dead Gwens!

@dirkdada In the comics yes but not in the movie

@BrojayLouw Gwen isn’t blindly trusting Miguel. She’s responding to months of reinforced social proof inside a system where everyone around her has seen the same patterns. The audience is allowed to doubt canon. Gwen, in her position, realistically wouldn’t.

@BrojayLouw That doesn’t make canon objectively true. The movie clearly wants us to question it. But it does make Gwen’s belief in it completely logical from her point of view.

@ravenjo16 @aestheticsguyy Their arc in Beyond won’t be about whether Miles and Gwen love each other anymore. That part’s already clear. It'll be about whether they can rebuild the bond Gwen broke b/w them & whether Miles can accept the flawed, imperfect girl Gwen hid behind the mask in Across.

@ravenjo16 @aestheticsguyy Realistic to say he’s changed? Sure. To say his love for Gwen is dead? No. What he felt for Gwen was never just an admiring crush, and the movie makes that clear. It’s not the same soft, hopeful love anymore. It’s wounded. But Miles is growing, not becoming a different person.+

@Toniatuslim @HollywoodHandle @MCU_Direct June 18, 2027.

@HollywoodHandle @MCU_Direct Another “very exciting” tease, but we’ve heard plenty of those before. At this point, fans probably care more about an actual release date than vague promises. Hype is easy to build, delivering something that tops the last film is the real challenge.

Jake Johnson reveals he’s begun voice recording for ‘SPIDER-MAN: BEYOND THE SPIDER-VERSE’ “They’re honoring him in a very exciting way.” (Via: @MCU_Direct)

@sheldonlv30 @series_golden @hitsradiouk Spider-Gwen isn't her actual superhero name. It's just what her fans call her. She's either Spider-Woman or Ghost Spider.

@series_golden @hitsradiouk I still can't take the name Spider-Gwen seriously bruh imagine Spider-Pete and Spider-Miles, or smth like BatBruce or SuperClark

Andrew Garfield says he’d love to see a live-action ‘SPIDER-GWEN’ movie starring Emma Stone and directed by Yorgos Lanthimos. 🕷️ (Via @hitsradiouk)

@ravenjo16 @aestheticsguyy I don't know if Spider-Gwen has lost Miles' love. Love doesn't vanish just like that. But she has def lost his trust.

@aestheticsguyy Spider gwen has lost Miles love and trust, they are not officially in a relationship, Gwen stacy is dead and MJ has lost her memory we don't know if they will be together at the end but at least they are luckier than the other two

@BrojayLouw Also, I sincerely hope that canon is not a complete mass delusion, because *that* would be unbelievable. Miguel needs to be right enough that it was plausible to believe it was true. I'd rather Miles discover a way to fix things rather than him just being purely right by luck.

@BrojayLouw Again, this is an assumption. You don't know how Miles' future would change based on whether his father lives or dies. Saying it's unimportant doesn't make it so. The conceit of Canon is that it *is* important. Otherwise, it wouldn't be an event.

@BrojayLouw And yet by Canon theory, one innocent death actually *is* necessary in order to save all the other innocents of an entire universe.

@dirkdada No innocent and unnecessary death. Spiderman and pretty much every western Saturday morning kids cartoon character wouldn't. It's how they're designed

@BrojayLouw Omg, the point of his choice was not to avoid a paradox. He has the legit choice to save Ben and he chose not to b/c doing it meant he wouldn't save others in the future. He sacrificed Ben in the moment to keep all the good he'd done since Ben's death.

@dirkdada That's a different case. That's to stop a paradox not out of morals. That one has to happen but Captain Stacy or any other captain,