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New York 🇺🇸🇨🇳 가입일 Eylül 2015
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We respect New York's right to determine the laws governing behavior in the state. We will of course comply if the New York legislature passes laws governing mystery boxes—something it has not done despite considering the issue a few times. Such laws would be the result of a public process, presumably with input from the industry and New York gamers. The type of commitments the NYAG demanded from Valve went far beyond what existing New York law requires and even beyond New York itself. It may have been easier and cheaper for Valve to make a deal with the NYAG, but we believed the type of deal that would satisfy the NYAG would have been bad for users and other game developers, and impacted our ability to innovate in game design.
In addition, although this case is about mystery boxes, we feel the need to address comments made by the NYAG about games, real world violence, and children. Those extraneous comments are a distraction and a mischaracterization we’ve all heard before. Numerous studies throughout the years have concluded there is no link between media (movies, TV, books, comics, music, and games) and real world violence. Indeed, many studies highlight the beneficial impact of games to users.
Ultimately, a court will decide whose position—ours or NYAG's—is correct. In the meantime, we wanted to make sure you were aware of the potential impact to users in New York and elsewhere.
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Dear New York customers of Counter-Strike 2, Dota 2, and Team Fortress 2:
You may have seen the New York Attorney General recently filed a lawsuit against Valve claiming mystery boxes (like crates, cases, and chests) in some of our games violate New York gambling laws. We don't believe that they do, and were disappointed to see the NYAG make that claim after working to educate them about our virtual items and mystery boxes since they first reached out to us in early 2023. We rarely talk about litigation, but we felt we should explain the situation to you.
We shared with the NYAG that these types of boxes in our games are widely used, not just in video games but in the tangible world as well, where generations have grown up opening baseball card packs and blind boxes and bags, and then trading and selling the items they receive. On the physical side, popular products used in this way include baseball cards, Pokemon, Magic the Gathering, and Labubu. In the game space, digital packs similar to our boxes date back to 2004 and are in widespread use. Players don't have to open mystery boxes to play Valve games. In fact, most of you don't open any boxes at all and just play the games – because the items in the boxes are purely cosmetic, there is no disadvantage to a player not spending money.
In the process of cooperating with the NYAG’s investigation, we shared with them our efforts over many years to shut down accounts found to be using Valve game items on gambling sites in violation of the Steam Subscriber Agreement. We also shared with them our efforts to combat fraud and theft of users’ items and our extraordinary measures to stop gambling sites from taking advantage of Steam accounts and Valve game items. Valve does not cooperate with gambling sites. To date we've locked over one million Steam accounts that were being misused by third parties in connection with gambling, fraud, and theft. We’ve also shipped features (like trade reversal and trade cooldown) to discourage gambling sites’ ability to operate and protect Steam users from fraud. And we forbid any gambling-related business to participate in or sponsor tournaments for our games.
We have serious concerns with many of the alterations the NYAG claims are necessary to make to our games. First, the NYAG seems to believe boxes and their contents should not be transferable. They appear to assume digital mystery boxes and items in our games are different from tangible items like baseball card packs (which contain random cards), and to take issue with the fact that users have the ability to transfer the items they receive through Steam Trading or user-to-user sales on the Community Market. We think the transferability of a digital game item is good for consumers–it gives a user the ability to sell or trade an old or unwanted item for something else, in the same way an owner can sell or trade a tangible item like a Pokemon or baseball card. NYAG proposes to take away users’ ability to transfer their digital items from Valve games. Transferability is a right we believe should not be taken away, and we refuse to do that.
The NYAG also proposed to gather additional information (beyond what we normally collect in the course of processing payments) about each game user on the off-chance someone in New York was anonymizing their location to appear outside of New York, such as by using a VPN. This would have involved implementing invasive technologies for every user worldwide. Similarly, the NYAG demanded that Valve collect more personal data about our users to do additional age verification—even though most payment methods used by New York Steam users already have age verification built-in. Valve knows our users care about the security of their personal information, and we believe it’s in our and their interest to only collect the information necessary to operate the business and comply with law.
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Valve sent CS players with NY residency an email addressing the AG’s lawsuit:
- Cases are optional and cosmetic only
- Cases are similar to TCG packs and Labubu
- Valve actively shuts down gambling related accounts
- Making items non-transferable hurts players
- Collecting additional user data and verifying age would be overly invasive
- Valve is not interested in settling
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Merry Christmas from MannCo Team 🎅
Comment your Steamid64 to get a Prize from us 🎁🎄
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@roflm0nster Would rather have this than a lot of the hyped stuff at the moment. BEAUTIFUL
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Most of CS twitter wasn’t there back in the day so I will say.
Once upon a time this exact knife (ST FN Kara crimson web with perfect webbing) was viewed as the best knife in CS. Most of the high tier scene would have taken this karambit over the FN 387 between 2013-2015
Sam@roflm0nster
IFYKYK
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gencobra 리트윗함
@cs2collector I almost had a heartattack because I thought the Glock and Deagle (both 1/1) were gone forever, but I’m 95% sure he sold both of those a few months ago
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So far in 2025, there have been more 4x titan holo crafts banned than created...
Rip to those crazy awesome skins 😢
also @gencobraCS probably partying right now 😂
LeoN（KATO）@Csgo_skins_kato
The Chinese tycoon was banned by valve, and his inventory value exceeded one million US dollars. The reason given by valve was fraud. Not long ago, he helped a player on X retrieve the defrauded items.
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