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Cromwell Jr.

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Cromwell Jr.
Cromwell Jr.@109evictions·
You've heard of classical liberalism. Now get ready for Cromwellian liberalism with hitlerian characteristics.
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Alfred
Alfred@chirdard2·
Cromwell for the English Napoleon for the French Hitler for the Germans Washington for the Americans I am American, I love and appreciate European leaders but they are not American. I will always love my own people more than others.
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The Other Paul
The Other Paul@TheOtherPaul2·
There is pressure as even Stephen acknowledges, but the problem is the kind of pressure. The bad kind we fight is just to denounce the bad thing. The kind which Steve is responding to is the pressure created by Michael himself when he stirs outrage for outrage's sake, creating unnecessary heat for his friends. That kind of disregard for your friends walking on tight rope is worth a denouncement.
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Cromwell Jr.
Cromwell Jr.@109evictions·
@totusjustice Notice how he explicitly stated that Spangler is a good man, with a lovely family?
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Cody Justice
Cody Justice@totusjustice·
@109evictions Being inconsiderate, exploitative, failing to give people their due, and betrayal are not sins? Do you hear yourself?
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Cody Justice
Cody Justice@totusjustice·
"nor do I want a “'Protestant Hitler.'" —Stephen Wolfe I didn't expect to see @PerfInjust champion Judaism, leftism, and impiety today in a public denouncement of @spanglermt. But here we are.
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Stephen Wolfe@PerfInjust

I’ve known Michael for many years. I don’t recall when we first met in person, but we became friends over three years ago. For much of that time, he lived near me. We’ve been to each other's houses. Our families have had dinner together, and our kids have played together. On a few occasions, he volunteered to help me with projects on the property: building a deck, moving felled trees, and other things. His wife is kind. He has good kids. Michael was repeatedly kind to me. I’ve spent more time with him than 99% of his critics, though I haven’t seen him much in the last year or so. I once said that Michael is a “friend” and “a good man”—-something used against me for nearly a year now. No critic has asked what I meant by it, and my default response is to ignore such people. I was referring to his kindness and generosity to me, and to his concern for my spiritual well-being, which surpassed that of many people in my life. Mindful of this history, and out of loyalty to a friend, I did not denounce or openly distance myself from Michael as he began to embrace positions that I reject. This came at great personal cost, not only for me but especially for my family. Online agitators and tale-bearers, most of whom are incapable of argument, insinuated that Michael and I are “fellow Nazis,” despite my numerous articles, videos, and books contradicting that claim. I do not expect any session or presbytery to correct these sinful accusations (WLC 144), despite several coming from those vowed to maintain the “peace of the church.” Michael knows the cost of being associated with him. He knows that anything he says places burdens upon others. I chose to endure them. An elderly man at my previous church—known and well respected in both the OPC and the PCA—encouraged me to remain friends with Michael for his sake, and I did. But the post below is a turning point for me. It represents a complete disregard for those who bear the costs of any degree of association. When consideration of others goes repeatedly unreciprocated, there comes a breaking point. It begins to look like exploitation. Obviously, “Christian prince” is a term I retrieved from the Protestant tradition, and it immediately recalls my work. Michael had to know that I, yet again, would be dragged into accusations of Naziism, even from those of decent will. He chose words (when there are alternatives) that instantly recall “Stephen Wolfe.” It is an act of betrayal. He has not considered how his actions affect others. He could have easily added, “I know that Stephen Wolfe does not agree with me.” But he did not. As I’ve said for years now, I have no interest in retrieving Naziism, nor do I want a “Protestant Hitler.” Michael knows this, as I’ve said to him (among others) that revising 1930s German history is unnecessary to critique the “post-war consensus”. I am right-wing, but I am an American. By today’s standards, American history is right-wing, and it contains all the resources for recovering a manly, moral liberty and a Christian society. Anglo-Protestantism, despite its faults, is still the core tradition of America. Our fight is to recover it. I have a high tolerance for differing opinions. I do not shy away from references to Marx, Nietzsche, Hegel, Heidegger, or “critical theory.” Viewing everything with the good/evil binary, or relying on a set of scary words to categorize intellectual history and various individuals, is unserious. I even use Marx in my MA philosophy thesis. But I would not say that we need a “Protestant Marx” or a “Protestant Heidegger”. We need a George Washington. Given Michael’s behavior—his disregard for my position and the effects of his actions—I can no longer consider him a friend. But I will not take on a mission to destroy him. I will not toss epithets at him or make quips for spectacle. I simply cannot continue in what I consider an exploitive relationship. I pray that Michael and his lovely family would live well in godliness.

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Cromwell Jr.
Cromwell Jr.@109evictions·
I am being consistent and thoughtful. I do not expect my friends to be forced to defend everything I say online. If I repeatedly say things that put them in compromising positions then I would completely understand if they re-evaluate the friendship. I do not dislike Spangler as a person in the slightest. I have the same goals as you and him in 99% of things, I just disagree strategically.
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Cromwell Jr.@109evictions·
@totusjustice None of those are accusations of sin. It's just an evaluation of the relationship.
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Cody Justice
Cody Justice@totusjustice·
You were able to identify where the dullards slandered Stephen. Can you not employ those same powers to identify where Stephen may have slandered Michael? Stated: a complete disregard for those who bear the costs of any degree of association; consideration of others goes repeatedly unreciprocated; look like exploitation; an act of betrayal; has not considered how his actions affect others. Implied: all sorts of things beyond comprehensive qualification. E.g. unreasonable, poor friend, etc. Also because of this I have already seen Michael get slandered repeatedly in GCs. Michael's association and investment in Stephen also had a cost, and now he is paying it at the hands of Stephen. But nobody is going to mention that.
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Cromwell Jr.
Cromwell Jr.@109evictions·
@totusjustice @skinnyidiotnerd Point to me which part of Stephen's post was sinful. Notice how he never even accused Michael of sin? And said he won't lead any sort of campaign against him? Yet here we are.
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Cody Justice
Cody Justice@totusjustice·
He said it was slander, based upon a literalist reading. I corrected him by being honest about the sarcasm. He asked for specifics; I gave it. He demanded I correct dullards based upon sin. I simply requested he do the same with Stephen. He refused. Double standard exposed. Nothing disingenuous. It's literally me being frank, concise, and incisive.
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Cody Justice@totusjustice·
@109evictions The amount of lies and projection coming out of this is something to behold.
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Cromwell Jr.
Cromwell Jr.@109evictions·
@totusjustice I won't be correcting Stephen because he did nothing wrong. Demanding your friends martyr themselves for you is not what a friend does.
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Cody Justice
Cody Justice@totusjustice·
@109evictions My sarcasm is not empty. I am attacking Stephen, too. I will see about correcting the dullards when you correct Stephen. Deal? It's in your favor: they likely won't gain more than 200 views while Stephen's OP is almost at 100k.
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Cromwell Jr.@109evictions·
@totusjustice Are you going to explain this to the dullards in your replies that took it seriously and are attacking Wolfe in earnest?
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Cromwell Jr.@109evictions·
@totusjustice So your claim that Stephen was championing Judaism, leftism, and impiety, was sarcasm?
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Cody Justice
Cody Justice@totusjustice·
@109evictions The one you replied to, which I then replied to. The slander is Stephen's. I am being gentle.
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Stephen Wolfe
Stephen Wolfe@PerfInjust·
I’ve known Michael for many years. I don’t recall when we first met in person, but we became friends over three years ago. For much of that time, he lived near me. We’ve been to each other's houses. Our families have had dinner together, and our kids have played together. On a few occasions, he volunteered to help me with projects on the property: building a deck, moving felled trees, and other things. His wife is kind. He has good kids. Michael was repeatedly kind to me. I’ve spent more time with him than 99% of his critics, though I haven’t seen him much in the last year or so. I once said that Michael is a “friend” and “a good man”—-something used against me for nearly a year now. No critic has asked what I meant by it, and my default response is to ignore such people. I was referring to his kindness and generosity to me, and to his concern for my spiritual well-being, which surpassed that of many people in my life. Mindful of this history, and out of loyalty to a friend, I did not denounce or openly distance myself from Michael as he began to embrace positions that I reject. This came at great personal cost, not only for me but especially for my family. Online agitators and tale-bearers, most of whom are incapable of argument, insinuated that Michael and I are “fellow Nazis,” despite my numerous articles, videos, and books contradicting that claim. I do not expect any session or presbytery to correct these sinful accusations (WLC 144), despite several coming from those vowed to maintain the “peace of the church.” Michael knows the cost of being associated with him. He knows that anything he says places burdens upon others. I chose to endure them. An elderly man at my previous church—known and well respected in both the OPC and the PCA—encouraged me to remain friends with Michael for his sake, and I did. But the post below is a turning point for me. It represents a complete disregard for those who bear the costs of any degree of association. When consideration of others goes repeatedly unreciprocated, there comes a breaking point. It begins to look like exploitation. Obviously, “Christian prince” is a term I retrieved from the Protestant tradition, and it immediately recalls my work. Michael had to know that I, yet again, would be dragged into accusations of Naziism, even from those of decent will. He chose words (when there are alternatives) that instantly recall “Stephen Wolfe.” It is an act of betrayal. He has not considered how his actions affect others. He could have easily added, “I know that Stephen Wolfe does not agree with me.” But he did not. As I’ve said for years now, I have no interest in retrieving Naziism, nor do I want a “Protestant Hitler.” Michael knows this, as I’ve said to him (among others) that revising 1930s German history is unnecessary to critique the “post-war consensus”. I am right-wing, but I am an American. By today’s standards, American history is right-wing, and it contains all the resources for recovering a manly, moral liberty and a Christian society. Anglo-Protestantism, despite its faults, is still the core tradition of America. Our fight is to recover it. I have a high tolerance for differing opinions. I do not shy away from references to Marx, Nietzsche, Hegel, Heidegger, or “critical theory.” Viewing everything with the good/evil binary, or relying on a set of scary words to categorize intellectual history and various individuals, is unserious. I even use Marx in my MA philosophy thesis. But I would not say that we need a “Protestant Marx” or a “Protestant Heidegger”. We need a George Washington. Given Michael’s behavior—his disregard for my position and the effects of his actions—I can no longer consider him a friend. But I will not take on a mission to destroy him. I will not toss epithets at him or make quips for spectacle. I simply cannot continue in what I consider an exploitive relationship. I pray that Michael and his lovely family would live well in godliness.
Michael Spangler@spanglermt

"Protestant Hitler" is the right term for the Christian prince we need today. By "Hitler" we name our need for ruthless anti-Judaism and anti-leftism, without which our nation will never be rescued. But by "Protestant" we name our urgent need for solid piety.

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Cromwell Jr.
Cromwell Jr.@109evictions·
Good friends do not require martyrdom of their friends. Loyalty requires that you do not drag your friends down with you by making it destructive to associate with you due to your own lack of self control. Wolfe is correct here. A man who hath friends must shew himself friendly.
Stephen Wolfe@PerfInjust

I’ve known Michael for many years. I don’t recall when we first met in person, but we became friends over three years ago. For much of that time, he lived near me. We’ve been to each other's houses. Our families have had dinner together, and our kids have played together. On a few occasions, he volunteered to help me with projects on the property: building a deck, moving felled trees, and other things. His wife is kind. He has good kids. Michael was repeatedly kind to me. I’ve spent more time with him than 99% of his critics, though I haven’t seen him much in the last year or so. I once said that Michael is a “friend” and “a good man”—-something used against me for nearly a year now. No critic has asked what I meant by it, and my default response is to ignore such people. I was referring to his kindness and generosity to me, and to his concern for my spiritual well-being, which surpassed that of many people in my life. Mindful of this history, and out of loyalty to a friend, I did not denounce or openly distance myself from Michael as he began to embrace positions that I reject. This came at great personal cost, not only for me but especially for my family. Online agitators and tale-bearers, most of whom are incapable of argument, insinuated that Michael and I are “fellow Nazis,” despite my numerous articles, videos, and books contradicting that claim. I do not expect any session or presbytery to correct these sinful accusations (WLC 144), despite several coming from those vowed to maintain the “peace of the church.” Michael knows the cost of being associated with him. He knows that anything he says places burdens upon others. I chose to endure them. An elderly man at my previous church—known and well respected in both the OPC and the PCA—encouraged me to remain friends with Michael for his sake, and I did. But the post below is a turning point for me. It represents a complete disregard for those who bear the costs of any degree of association. When consideration of others goes repeatedly unreciprocated, there comes a breaking point. It begins to look like exploitation. Obviously, “Christian prince” is a term I retrieved from the Protestant tradition, and it immediately recalls my work. Michael had to know that I, yet again, would be dragged into accusations of Naziism, even from those of decent will. He chose words (when there are alternatives) that instantly recall “Stephen Wolfe.” It is an act of betrayal. He has not considered how his actions affect others. He could have easily added, “I know that Stephen Wolfe does not agree with me.” But he did not. As I’ve said for years now, I have no interest in retrieving Naziism, nor do I want a “Protestant Hitler.” Michael knows this, as I’ve said to him (among others) that revising 1930s German history is unnecessary to critique the “post-war consensus”. I am right-wing, but I am an American. By today’s standards, American history is right-wing, and it contains all the resources for recovering a manly, moral liberty and a Christian society. Anglo-Protestantism, despite its faults, is still the core tradition of America. Our fight is to recover it. I have a high tolerance for differing opinions. I do not shy away from references to Marx, Nietzsche, Hegel, Heidegger, or “critical theory.” Viewing everything with the good/evil binary, or relying on a set of scary words to categorize intellectual history and various individuals, is unserious. I even use Marx in my MA philosophy thesis. But I would not say that we need a “Protestant Marx” or a “Protestant Heidegger”. We need a George Washington. Given Michael’s behavior—his disregard for my position and the effects of his actions—I can no longer consider him a friend. But I will not take on a mission to destroy him. I will not toss epithets at him or make quips for spectacle. I simply cannot continue in what I consider an exploitive relationship. I pray that Michael and his lovely family would live well in godliness.

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NSV!
NSV!@nsvnationaal·
Today, NSV! commemorates the victims of the Islamic bombings in Zaventem and Maalbeek, exactly ten years ago. To prevent such incidents in the future, NSV! advocates for remigration. Save our nation, remigration! Join us on March 26th at 8 PM for our demonstration in Leuven and make your voice heard! Never forget. Never forgive.
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