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'̶̛̛̝̜̮͕̃̄́́͌̅̐̽̕̕͠;̷̣̟͉̜͙̺̣̟̤̙͆̈́̊̿ͅ;̵̢̥̘̲̭͚̟̱͋̈́͋ͅ
@2012JV17
Akron, Ohio Katılım Ağustos 2020
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@AntonBanter @Szabadsag1956 It's not a perfect sovereignty, but given that countries joining NATO have their interests coincide with the US and that the other option is to be swallowed by Russia, using the word sovereignty makes a lot of sense.
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@AntonBanter @Szabadsag1956 Smaller countries need military reassurances from the US so they don't get invaded by Russia 🤯, crazy concept I know. Here, the use of "sovereignty" is in comparison to Russia. Countries are sovereign under NATO in comparison to countries under the russian sphere of influence.
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You gotta love how Communists fundamentally reject the sovereignty of any country/people that ever overthrew Communism. It's just a pathological ethnic hatred rooted in resentment.
Leanne 🍅☭@Leannenist
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@AntonBanter @Szabadsag1956 Countries lobbied heavily the US to get into NATO, but ig you know better. Maybe Bush and Clinton were kidnapping heads of states and tortured them till they signed to join the alliance?
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@Szabadsag1956 It is a foolish perspective leading to the inability to look back and evaluate your actions and diplomatic policy. Even if the conclusion on NATO-expansion would be the same in hindsight, to simply blanket paint it with ideas of sovereignty and agency is masturbatory idiocy.
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@Leviazien @Apopoka_ wow slight overreaction there buddy
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Hasan's solution to Ukraine is that Ukraine should stop resisting the imperialist invader which considering his stance on other nations is interesting
yeet@Awk20000
Hasan says his Ukraine/Russia analysis ended up being correct & that the only criticism he receives comes down to him not giving out enough pro Ukraine hopium "Yes my initial prediction that Putin would never Ukraine was wrong..the analysis was still obviously correct..look at the situation now, every single thing that I said, including the initial ceasefire agreement should have been taken..the offramp..should have been taken..these are no longer controversial..now universal position..it was foresight at the time" "That sh*tty peace deal would have been a massive W in comparison to the battle lines currently..they pushed back on some Russian positions, they got a little bit of territory back..Ukraine has lost leverage..every single day..now facing..permanent annexation" "It feels like every single criticism anybody makes of ur Russia takes ultimately comes down to, ur not giving me as much pro Ukraine hopium as I want therefore u must be pro Russia, have u ever seen a more reasonable critique?" - chatter "No I have not, also saying Russia economy is crumbling rn when strikes on Iran..we gave Russia sanctions relief..price of oil barrel goes up..Russia benefits, they don't rely on the Strait of Hormuz"
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@Nopee8d4 @PaperCutVet bcs you can't read
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The older I get, the more I realize that most Westerners can't see the concept of resistance beyond Hollywood's whitewashed version of it.
Ashley🍉@AshLovesComics
"I support Palestine but I would never ever condone resistance"
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@25lasa @PaperCutVet @melo1305__ @Blaze_Knight95 According to you there were no rapes in Sabra-Shatila.
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@2012JV17 @PaperCutVet @melo1305__ @Blaze_Knight95 the only person who spoke out about being sexually assaulted, is not related to octoer 7th, it happened while she was imprisoned, which isnt connected to this UN commission, and i never called her a liar, as hamas said, name the perpetrators and they will be held accountable.
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@25lasa @PaperCutVet @melo1305__ @Blaze_Knight95 There actually is, you can do a quick search and you will find it, but what are the odds of you calling her a liar? I would be a lot of money on a yes.
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@PaperCutVet @SlippinJimjon Using your logic we can confidently say that no rapes occured during oct7 and Sabra-Shatila.
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@2012JV17 @SlippinJimjon Idk think you read the report. It admits there’s very limited forensic evidence, very few direct Oct 7 survivor testimonies, and that some claims couldn’t be verified or were even unfounded.
it’s a preliminary assessment with clear limitations, not a final judgment.
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@25lasa @PaperCutVet @melo1305__ @Blaze_Knight95 You have a victims testimony, forensic evidence, a UN mission and more but it isn't enough? Again, going with you standard of evidence, there were exactly 0 rapes in Sabra-Shatila.
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@2012JV17 @PaperCutVet @melo1305__ @Blaze_Knight95 its not even evidence pal, its in fact akin to heresay.
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@25lasa @PaperCutVet @melo1305__ @Blaze_Knight95 All I did was post a UN report screenshot as evidence that there were rapes. Is it so difficult to acknowledge it?
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@2012JV17 @PaperCutVet @melo1305__ @Blaze_Knight95 im palestinian, idk what you expect, but it seems absurd of you to paint hamas as a rapist army when their enemies do way more of it with way more evidence, thats all, hamas said show evidence and we will help you to prosecute the perpetrators, israel never did this.
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@SlippinJimjon @PaperCutVet Btw Israel collaborates/collaborated with the PLO since 1993, which is a resistance group. Has done multiple agreements and more.
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@2012JV17 @PaperCutVet It doesn't matter if it happened or not, cause that's not the purpose of the resistance. In protest there are always ppl who use it as an opportunity to loot. The few rapists don't define the entire group, and Israel would have a problem with any resistance group in general?
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@PaperCutVet @25lasa @melo1305__ @Blaze_Knight95 x.com/i/status/20374…
Any thoughts on this? Using your standard of evidence, no rapes occurred in Sabra-Shatila.
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@PaperCutVet You know that oct7 and Sabra-Shatila both have very similar evidence of rape : survivor testimony (although here Israel has more evidence), witness testimony, medical / forensic evidence, official investigation (Khan commission vs UN) and most rape victims are dead.
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@2012JV17 @25lasa @melo1305__ @Blaze_Knight95 I just corrected that individual they probably thought it was a child in the video . What Israel does to children is actually starve them to death then refuse to punish the perpetrators
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@PaperCutVet @25lasa @melo1305__ @Blaze_Knight95 No shit Israel mistreats and abuses teenagers with impunity, but that has nothing to do with the discussion.
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@25lasa @PaperCutVet @melo1305__ @Blaze_Knight95 Who even mentioned systemic rape hamas policy? You guys are too deeply emotionally involved with palestine, which results in this abnormal behaviour "give names or rape never happened "
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@PaperCutVet @2012JV17 @melo1305__ @Blaze_Knight95 The person who did this was cleared of all charges and hailed as a hero, when speaking of organizations like hamas or idf, the term “systemic” comes up, and there is 0 evidence pointing to systemic rape policy in hamas, maybe there are some rogue actors, with IDF it is systemic.
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@PaperCutVet @25lasa @melo1305__ @Blaze_Knight95 Why sensationalise when the matter is already very grave? It shows that yall are either liars or act in bad faith 🤷♂️
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@25lasa @2012JV17 @melo1305__ @Blaze_Knight95 Not children . But they only raped an adult on camera 🥺 so it’s fine and they’re the most moral army
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@25lasa @PaperCutVet @melo1305__ @Blaze_Knight95 Im not sure about this one "idf has done rapes of children on cameras" if you have any evidence, I'll take a look.
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@2012JV17 @PaperCutVet @melo1305__ @Blaze_Knight95 The idf has done rapes of children on cameras. And numerically there is way more well evidenced idf rapes than there is both well evidenced and not hamas rapes combined.
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@PaperCutVet Yet you will do everything to dismiss oct7 rapes but I bet you wouldn't do the same for Sabra-Shatila .
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@PaperCutVet You know that oct7 and Sabra-Shatila both have very similar evidence of rape : survivor testimony (although here Israel has more evidence), witness testimony, medical / forensic evidence, official investigation (Khan commission vs UN) and most rape victims are dead.
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@PaperCutVet Actually I'm not implying anything, all I did was post a screenshot from the UN report saying "reasonable grounds to believe" for rape and "found credible circumstantial information indicative of some forms of sexual violence"
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@2012JV17 The report doesn’t actually prove what you’re implying. It says there are “reasonable grounds to believe” SV occurred which is a lower standard, not definitive proof.
It also admits there’s very limited forensic evidence, very few direct Oct 7 survivor testimonies,
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