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21 stdv
@21stdv
22 | $NQ & $XAUUSD trader | +5 figures in verified payouts | The man.
Grinding in a dark room Katılım Kasım 2025
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One of the worst feelings ever on this trading shit is actually putting immense effort into an account for weeks and weeks only to have your your payout rejected on D day. Very very demotivating thing to experience. Thanks @AlphaCapitalUK

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A common issue I see in the prop trading space isn’t necessarily greed in trades, but greed in expectations. Traders severely underestimate how difficult it is to pass an evaluation and reach a payout.
They overspend on evaluations, blow them up, and suddenly have no capital left to keep trying.
If you’re trading with a small bankroll and unsure how much you should allocate to evaluations, here’s a simple rule of thumb:
Whatever eval you want to buy, you should be able to buy it 10 times over. For example, if the evaluation costs $100, you should have around $1,000 available for trading.
You spending 50%+ of your savings on evaluations is just not a good idea. Not only will it affect your decision making in trading, but the odds of making a profit are simply too low. The bank RR isn’t there... in most cases it just becomes a money sink.
Some of you may not like to hear it, but if you can’t afford to buy the evaluation multiple times over, it’s too large for your bankroll, you simply can't afford the minimum buy-in. It’s like walking into a casino with $100 and EXPECTING to run it up 10x playing Blackjack. It just isn't realistic... and you know it.
MAGNUS_FUTURES@MAGNUS_FUTURES
A lot of prop traders struggle because they’re trading from a state of desperation. No real liquid capital or financial buffer... just hoping TA or psychology solves what is really a real life bankroll management issue. You can’t play the game when you have no chips left.
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@HenryEdwar14312 @FundedNext @SealFunded By saying this:
1. Either you're unprofitable and you never experienced one of your hard earned payouts gets rejected.
2. Or simply you're retarded.
I bet you're both.
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@21stdv @FundedNext @SealFunded Dipshits like you will find one or two cases, make a lie and post it for attention. Endless people across Twitter, other socials like discord post their payouts. Everyone is an influencer huh? Attention seeking morons
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Attention Everyone⚠️
@FundedNext are currently paying only influencers. Normal traders, you should avoid them at all costs if you don’t want your payouts rejected.
@SealFunded posted today that his payout was rejected. The post went viral, they contacted him, solved the issue, and told him to delete all the tweets and stay quiet about it. Shame on him for helping them cover up such a scam.
They did this before with @astucefx , he got rejected then paid after his tweet went viral.

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@FundedNext @SealFunded I don't think you're up to date. It's not their first time doing it, they're paying you if you're an influencer or if you got lucky and your tweet got viral. A regular trader will rarely get his payout.
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@RealBMTrades @I_Am_The_ICT Yeah he also said BTC would never reach 100K.
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The past few weeks have revealed a new type of data that big payout traders are finally starting to show.
Let’s take this example👇 $88K spent on evals in a single month to generate $164K. Yes, technically he’s net profitable. But hold on, don’t let that number slide.
$88K over 28 days is more than $3K spent on evals per day. Per day.
That’s a monstrous number.
This opened a completely new perspective for me, a new definition of profitability. For my entire journey, I believed profitability meant building a batch of funded accounts, rolling payouts for a month or two or more, then eventually losing the accounts and restarting. In that model, expenses might reach $2K–$4K/m at most.
But this is entirely different.
I’m not hating. I’m genuinely trying to understand how this structure works. These numbers hit me differently. It felt like a slap in the face.
For years, social media has mostly shown payouts. I actually appreciate this new trend of showing expenses as well, because it reveals some hidden truths.
Eventually I’ll understand how this model really operates and if it makes sense, I’ll adapt and build my own edge within it.
Master Black@masterblack64
Yes. I spent 88,131 in evals -> to make 164,426 in payouts. (Feb) So +76,295 positive to the bank. Hate all you want. All I care about is getting paid.
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@propfirmeye @FundedNext Well that goes for every propfirm futures or forex regardless of the name
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This PropFirm has lost it's Mind.
For breaking a Rule – they terminated his account
BUT BUT BUT
For not breaking a rule – they gave him his Payout
@FundedNext is doing some Ninja Tacnic to scam their traders. First, they reject your Payout with false accusations, then they wait for your reaction. If you post your case publicly and it goes Viral, they take your case seriously and solve it.
That's the same thing they did with this trader. They first held his Payout. When his Tweet went Viral, they gave him his Payout but terminated his account.
A few days ago, @astucefx shared his case Publicly. After his tweet got 200K+ Views, they solve his case.
If a tweet goes Viral = Problem solved
If a tweet doesn’t go Viral = No Solution
Ola Daniel@CableAnalyst
I got paid by @FundedNext and account terminated.
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If you believe @JustinWerlein plan was to make a successful marketing campaign you're retarded. He's unprofitable and he scammed people.
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Just watched @JustinWerlein's new vid, yk what I think? I think he's net negative, not even at breakeven as he claimed before.
If it was a marketing campaign he wouldn't have took down the first video.
In my last post about him I said that I still respect him even after what he did, but now in this post, I don't have a single piece of respect for him. Sorry.
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@Justginaa92 @L2WTrades Congratulations on your payout 🎉 Enjoy the journey coming ahead... We've all been there
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@21stdv @L2WTrades Idk. I started studying and trading this past August. & tmw I’m eligible to take my very first pay out of $4k. 5 days of trading & one pay out has paid me back my blown accounts. My career doesn’t do that.
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this is the most uncomfortable career comparison you'll see today
accountant: 4-5 years school, $80K debt, 60 hour weeks during tax season = $35-$55/hour
software engineer: 4 years school, $120K debt, constant upskilling to not get replaced = $55-$85/hour
trader: 6-12 months learning, $0 debt, 90 minutes per day = $200-$800/hour
the third one isn't even considered a "real career" by most people
prop firm trading is using someone else's $100K-$400K in capital to trade futures markets and keeping 80-90% of the profits
no degree. no certification. no resume. no interview. no boss. just a $300-$500 challenge fee and the ability to follow a system with discipline
the reason the hourly rate is so high is because you're not selling time. you're selling decision quality
one correct decision at 9:47 AM on a $200K account can net $2,000-$4,000 in 18 minutes
the software engineer needs 2 full days of work to earn that
the setup is simple.
price moves from internal liquidity to external liquidity. back and forth. on every timeframe. forever
you identify where stops are sitting.
you wait for price to sweep them.
you enter when it reverses.
you target the next liquidity pool
that's it.
that's what traders who actually make money understand that most retail traders never figure out because they're drowning in 47 indicators and 12 strategies from YouTube
the real edge isn't the strategy. it's the filter
the 9:30 AM rule:
if price doesn't expand during a red folder news event or at 9:30 (New York open), you don't trade that day
this single rule eliminates 60%+ of garbage trades before they happen
most traders see a "setup" and force it. then wonder why they got chopped up for 4 hours
expansion tells you if the market is ready to move.
no expansion = close the laptop. go live your life
the math on stacking:
month 1-3: learn the system. mark up 200+ charts. paper trade. prove it works
month 4-6: buy your first challenge. $300-$500. pass it using one setup during one session
month 7-9: stack 3 accounts. $300K total capital. same system across all three
month 10-12: target 3-4% monthly per account. $300K × 3.5% = $10,500 gross. prop firm takes their cut. you pocket $8-9K
total hours worked per month: 30-40
total capital risked: $1,500 in challenge fees
total capital controlled: $300,000
the accountant spent 5 years and $80K to bill $55/hour
a trader spent 6 months and $1,500 to make $250/hour working 90 minutes a day
that gap should bother you
the reason nobody talks about this is because there's no university for it. no career counselor recommending it. no HR department hiring for it
90% of people who try quit within the first 3 months because they blow a few challenges and decide "it doesn't work"
they blow $50k of their savings and quit
that attrition rate is the moat. it's what keeps the opportunity alive for the people who don't quit
the surgeon spent 12 years to earn $200/hour
the trader spent 12 months
same math. different path. one requires permission. the other doesn't
the system is real. the math is real. the only variable is whether you'll actually do it. i made a free Discord where everybody can join with a link in bio.
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@NickZednik Watched it couple days ago, that nightclub scene couldn't leave my mind
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