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Derek ✝️ 🇺🇸 🇻🇦
@AMDG_Derek
Catholic Convert | Husband & Dad | Eucharist Supremacist | Rosary Extremist | Sharing prayer requests |
Katılım Ekim 2023
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@dom_lucre Im like that every morning when the light comes in the window and i have to get up for work
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@BelteshazzarAD Okay well I hope you find someone who can better explain the church’s teaching. Hope you have a good day though. Thanks for the conversation.
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@AMDG_Derek You literally just said nothing.
I completely understand the Churches position.
Your actions contradict their position while you say they don’t but refuse to articulate why when confronted with this.
Good luck
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This guy; “repentance is works-based salvation.”
Jesus: “The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand; repent and believe in the gospel.” x.com/PastorAwes/sta…
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I cant tell if you’re genuinely missing the point or if you’re so set on trying to prove the CC wrong that you’re refusing to listen and consider that you’re wrong in your assessment. But I don’t have the time to continue going back and forth on a topic that I’ve already explained. I’d encourage you to continue to research and read what the church teaches so that you can have a correct understanding of church teaching. Have a nice day. God bless.
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Around and around.
Per the Catholic Church if you don’t “change/stop” from your sinning (that’s everyone) you haven’t repented.
So if you keep sinning you haven’t truly repented per your Churches doctrine.
But you, and all, willfully sin all the time… but you’re different because you repent all the time…
But per your Church you haven’t truly repented because you haven’t changed/stopped sinning.
So the question is… what’s the threshold?
What’s too much sinning, and what is just the right amount to be considered trying not to?
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It’s just so tiresome….
Adriel Montejano@adrielmontejan0
Catholics: We Don't Worship Mary Also Catholics:
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@BelteshazzarAD What am I saying that is hypocritical to you?
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@BelteshazzarAD Im not saying you can’t send multiple messages. Im asking that you keep them in a thread. So if you need to send multiple messages, just keep replying to the your previous message, like how I did above.
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@AMDG_Derek That’s not fair. You send multiple mess and I respond to each… only to be told keep it to one thread.
I’ll try
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@BelteshazzarAD Also, I’d request that you keep your responses in a thread rather than multiple separate responses to my one. Helps keep the discussion flowing better. Thanks.
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You’re missing the context because you’re leaving out the preceding words “a fixed determination”. That means he must have his will set on trying not to sin anymore, even if he is likely to fail.
If we’re going to have a fruitful discussion, it’s imperative that you don’t cut out words that provided necessary context.
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Let me offer this clarification for you, as I am truly trying to have a good faith conversation with you as well. For that, I thank you.
As the video shows, there is nothing that says “you MUST stop sinning”. Rather, it says that one must have “a fixed determination to avoid all sin”. Those are not the same thing. The church recognizes that we are weak and yes, we will probably still fall and commit sin. The overall goal, however, is that we are going to continue to fight against those temptations, to do our best to leave those habits behind us, and to live a life of virtue and holiness, even if we still occasionally mess up, the goal is that we repent and firmly resolve to never do it again.
In that text, they are basically saying “if someone is not resolving to fight against sin, and have no intention to fight against their habitual sin, don’t admit them”. So the focus isn’t so much “are they still sinning” so much as “do they have that significant change of heart, mind, and will to avoid sin”.
Does that help?

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I ask because the Catholic Church says “in order to repent you MUST stop your habit of sinning.”
What does that mean?
Because per you, you still willfully sin.
You said, “yeah but I repent all the time for my sin.”
Yet your Church said you must CHANGE/STOP your habit of sinning…
So you haven’t done that. NO human has done that. Do some sin LESS than others?
Of course. BUT the Bible says we can’t NOT stop ourselves from sinning which was the point of Jesus.
If you’re guilty of sinning, breaking one of Gods laws, you are guilty of ALL of it.
So, per the Catholic Church definition of repent that this Pastor laid out, YOU yourself haven’t fulfilled THEIR definition of repentance.
How do you square that?
This is the Pastors point.
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@Bobsilva72 Catholics and Protestants use the word in different ways and it causes unnecessary fighting and confusion. While we venerate (“worship” as in the old-English sense of the word), we do not worship her as God.
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@BelteshazzarAD I never claimed that at all. I am constantly repenting of my sins, just as Jesus told us to. But according to the guy in the video, that is unbiblical. It sounds like you both are claiming that repentance is not necessary for salvation. Is that correct or no?
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@AMDG_Derek Hey Host. Who painted the real Our Lady of Guadalupe painting?
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@SchrockNat79945 Out of curiosity, can you tell me which council, and where, decreed “the torture, drowning, and burning of fellow human”?
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@BelteshazzarAD As according to you, as long as you acknowledge Jesus as savior, you can keep on intentionally committing sin at-will without concern about damnation?
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Repent means to change one’s mind. Which is why God repented multiple times in the Bible.
It doesn’t mean to be sorry for sinning though it can.
When the Bible says repent and be saved, it means, change your mind on there not being a God or change your mind in thinking Jesus isn’t the Christ.
THIS guy is addressing the unbiblical notion that some Catholics use saying, if you continue to sin you haven’t “repented.” OR you must continually go to a Priest to repent, show you’re sorry for your sins to the Priest IN ORDER to be “continually” saved.
THIS is the works based aspect. And it’s unbiblical.
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@SchrockNat79945 Bowing is a sign of respect - ie, veneration - and is not de facto worship. Scripture is replete with examples of people bowing to one another other as a sign of humility and respect.
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You are playing semantic games with your intentions, but you are completely ignoring what the text of Scripture actually says about physical actions.
Look at the historical reality of the Bronze Serpent (2 Kings 18:4). God Himself explicitly commanded Moses to make that bronze snake for a holy, miraculous purpose (Numbers 21:8). The Israelites didn't believe that piece of metal was Yahweh, and they didn't proclaim it as a new God.
But centuries later, when the people began bowing down, burning incense, and offering physical devotion to it, the righteous King Hezekiah physically smashed it to pieces. Why? Because their physical actions turned a holy object into an idol.
If the people of Israel were condemned for offering physical devotion to an object that God actually commanded them to make, how can you defend bowing on your knees before a massive portrait of a deceased human being that God never commanded you to paint or bow to?
Your verbal disclaimer ('we know she isn't God') doesn't erase what the human body is physically doing on its knees in front of an image. The Second Commandment doesn't say 'don't believe images are gods.' It explicitly commands: 'You shall not make for yourself a carved image... you shall not bow down to them or serve them' (Exodus 20:4-5).
The physical action is the sin.
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@SchrockNat79945 I don’t commit idolatry and I guarantee you the guy in the pic is not committing idolatry either. Catholics love Mary and ask for her intercession, but she is not God and we do not proclaim her or treat her as such.
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Then quit being an idolator if it’s tiresome
Jesus laid down a clear, absolute rule for identifying true and false teachers: "By their fruits you will know them" (Matthew 7:20).
A tree cannot produce fruit that completely contradicts its own root. The idea that the Holy Spirit—the same Spirit that descended like a gentle dove and empowers believers to love their enemies—would move a church council to decree the torture, drowning, and burning of fellow human beings is a complete theological impossibility.
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@Pear925 @palpatinegroyp Jacob to Esau: “Accept, I pray you, my gift that is brought to you…” (Gen 33:11)
Worship?
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@palpatinegroyp @AMDG_Derek You do more then bow, you have entire prayers dedicated to Mary. That’s worship. On top of that, the Bible never says to carve out statues and bow and worship. Jesus says to go into your room, close the door and pray to your father who is unseen.
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It never changes: the same people who say we put Mary in God’s place immediately assume God’s place themselves and pronounce eternal judgment on Catholics.
This is iT@istheebirdreal2
@DontBotherIt65 @AMDG_Derek Guess who's getting cooked for eternity 😎
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