@carolyn_phippen @NormieUtah You always have identifying documents, you have your signature-- it's good enough for voting in Utah.
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Aaron Davidson
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@NormieUtah Next time I get pulled over for speeding or something like that, if that ever were to happen,
I wonder how it would go down if I just told them I "don't have any US identifying documents?"
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KSL is back to their dirty tricks again.
This horrific crime was committed by “a man…”🤦♂️
They buried the lede in the last para: Police say Ramirez-Padilla "is a Mexican national with ties to Mexico and does not have any U.S. identifying documents."
KSL.com - Utah Breaking News@KSLcom
A man who told police he was under the influence of drugs was arrested for investigation of attempted murder Wednesday after police found a woman bleeding from her neck. ow.ly/2ziC50YwATQ
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@AskNoMansLand @mikemckellutah Sorry, County Clerks do not have any backend access to any documents that may have been presented to the DLD for citizenship verification.
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Actually, Utah already does have a process in place to accommodate the Save Act. You should know that.
So, correct me if I'm wrong here, because I did go over this with my own county clerk, and here's what I "know".
The first of five identity documents listed in the SAVE ACT is the REAL ID
A form of identification issued consistent with the requirements of the REAL ID Act of 2005 that indicates the applicant is a citizen of the United States.The key is "indicates the applicant is a citizen of the United States". True not all REAL ID does - HOWEVER - 1. Utah issues REAL ID and when an ID or license holder applies for that ID, the licensing division scans the supporting documents, including proofs of citizenship. 2. Those supporting documents are available to the clerk to verify the citizenship status of the voter. Therefore, when the ID holder's license record has supporting citizenship documents, the citizenship of the ID holder is in fact "indicated" to the elections clerk as the Save Act requires. Did I miss any important fact here? As CDL holders all know, but most regular license holders might not realize, there is a LOT of "indicators" in our driver license records that aren't on the physical license. We know our clerks have access to the backend information in our licenses much the same way the highway patrolman does. The SAVE Act is already accommodated, true?
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Had @mikemckellutah not killed HB479 in committee two weeks ago, Utah would have had a process in place to accommodate the SAVE Act passing.
ksl.com/article/514678…
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"That's not what's happening with the SAVE America Act," [Henderson] wrote. "This bill would be effective immediately in the middle of an election year. It would be impossible to implement, on top of all its other problems."
Difficult, Yes. Impossible, No
ksl.com/article/514678…
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@hauserdan As well as with Tyler Technologies, another NGO, the State has a contract with to process all online voter registrations.
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With that background, let’s move on to her “Facts”. This point about privacy, she is being willfully obtuse. Do you know that she already shares your private voter information with an NGO called ERIC? What information do they share? It will surprise you. /4
Lt. Gov. Deidre M. Henderson@LGHendersonUtah
FACT: Utah is a vote-by-mail state. Art. IV, Sec. 8 of the Utah Constitution guarantees the right to a secret ballot for federal and state elections.
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Time for a rebuttal thread since it seems that not only does @LGHendersonUtah misrepresent what is in Senator Lee’s SAVE America Act but also seems upset that he never received her permission to author and promote it. Stay with me as I piece this altogether. /1
Lt. Gov. Deidre M. Henderson@LGHendersonUtah
FACT: Utah is a vote-by-mail state. Art. IV, Sec. 8 of the Utah Constitution guarantees the right to a secret ballot for federal and state elections.
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@kymc1234 @RussJRampton You can, but we've seen mail take a week to arrive even when mailed within Utah or Salt Lake County. It depends on how much you value you vote.
The law is now the ballot has to be in our hands on election day. Post marks are not looked at to determine if it was mailed on time.
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@ARDavidson @RussJRampton You can return thru the US Mail, just don't wait until after the deadline has passed to mail it.
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If you are voting for Davidson, please do it in person.
Don’t use a ballot returned to a 24/7 secure drop box to vote for someone who doesn’t want you voting that way.
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Aaron Davidson@ARDavidson
If you're a delegate, and a voter in June, know what you're voting for. I have been proudly voicing my full support for the SAVE Act and Utah's version, HB479, that got shot down by @mikemckellutah in a senate committee meeting. DavidsonClerk.com
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@TheJTShow2024 @rattybill @mikemckellutah Sorry, I didn't catch that and I didn't look close enough at who posted the comment. 👍❤️
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As the current Utah County Clerk, I fully support the SAVE Act.
My opponent's lead sponsor, @mikemckellutah killed Utah's version of the SAVE Act, HB479, in committee.
Do you want a County Clerk that supports or opposes the SAVE Act passing and wants election integrity?
Mike Lee@SenMikeLee
Simple as.
Provo, UT 🇺🇸 English
@mcsuggafree @mikemckellutah If that's what "you" want to believe.
Lindon, UT 🇺🇸 English
@ARDavidson @mikemckellutah It seems Utah County is the only county in the state that has election problems each cycle.
Maybe it’s only a “you” issue?
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FACTS:
As Utah County Clerk, I strongly support the SAVE Act.
@mikemckellutah killed Utah's version of the SAVE Act, HB479.
McKell supports my competitor in this year's election, Corey Astill. They oppose secure elections
This is a big factor this year.
DavidsonClerk.com
Lt. Gov. Deidre M. Henderson@LGHendersonUtah
FACT: Utah is a vote-by-mail state. Art. IV, Sec. 8 of the Utah Constitution guarantees the right to a secret ballot for federal and state elections.
Lindon, UT 🇺🇸 English
If you're a delegate, and a voter in June, know what you're voting for. I have been proudly voicing my full support for the SAVE Act and Utah's version, HB479, that got shot down by @mikemckellutah in a senate committee meeting.
DavidsonClerk.com
Cernovich@Cernovich
Utah's next Governor opposes the SAVE America Act. This is a crisis in Utah, and all red states. They will all be California within 5 years unless YOU - yes all of you who are obsessed with blue states - get involved and remove the rot.
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@NormieUtah By statute, those ballots would be counted and the new signature would be placed in the voter's record to be used for validation purposes in future years. In this last election, we had over 100 instances of this very situation. How do you investigate this for fraud, if it's legal
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@ARDavidson So if a bunch of ballots are sent where someone has moved, and they are filled out fraudulently, they are rejected and a cure letter is sent to the same place, and the same people return it fraudulently, that vote not counts…..BY LAW?????
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The signature verification process on the cure list letters is even worse.
If the signature that comes back on the cure letter still doesn't match the voter record, by statute, we have to accept it.
It's legalized insanity labeled as safe and secure elections.
Brad Edison Bonham@BradEBonham
Fun fact about me: I think signature verification is one of the weakest ways to prove someone is who they say they are. We’re literally relying on a scribble… ultimately judged by a human… and calling that secure. If we’re serious about election integrity, it’s pretty simple: Verified ID. Every time.
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@TheJTShow2024 @rattybill @mikemckellutah Well, fortunately for me, not too many people share your viewpoint.
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@LGHendersonUtah The use of the last four digits proved to be a complete failure last year. The code changed for this year, but personally, I still feel it will prove just as useless this year.
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Utah uses signature verification, and soon the last four digits of a DL or SS number with the signature to verify ID in a way that preserves ballot secrecy. The SAA would preempt that.
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FACT: Utah is a vote-by-mail state.
Art. IV, Sec. 8 of the Utah Constitution guarantees the right to a secret ballot for federal and state elections.
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@LGHendersonUtah So you believe 20A-3a-204(2)(e) is a violation of our Constitutional right to a secret ballot to require first-time voters to include a copy of their valid ID inside their mail-in ballot envelope. You must not know election law. le.utah.gov/xcode/Title20A…
Lindon, UT 🇺🇸 English
The SAVE America Act requires a voter to include a photocopy of their ID in the return envelope of a by-mail ballot, violating our Constitutional right to a secret ballot.
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@ARDavidson Deflection much?
How about correcting the false statements you made?
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She'll willingly turn over the entire state voter roll to ERIC and Tyler Technologies, both of which are NGO's, but heaven forbid she should turn over something to the federal government.
The Salt Lake Tribune@sltrib
Within weeks of Trump’s DOJ suing Utah in an effort to obtain its entire voter database, the state is asking a federal judge to throw out the unprecedented lawsuit. sltrib.com/news/politics/…
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@flintdm @hicksticks2001 That's the problem. The left believes there should be multiple versions of the voter roll, therefore, they label it voter rolls and criticize people if someone believes there should be one voter roll. So to me, it is The Voter Roll, not Rolls.
Provo, UT 🇺🇸 English
@hicksticks2001 @ARDavidson Talk about amateur hour dear useful idiot Aaron, it's spelled voter ROLLS lil kiddo.
Thanks for playing.🤪
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@RCAggie Then why won't you gives me the meta data on a registration record from Tyler Technologies to prove a voter's innocence or guilt.
Lindon, UT 🇺🇸 English
@ARDavidson Do you want to correct your statements?
You of all people should know how these things work.
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@rattybill @mikemckellutah If it's one of the best voting systems in the country, where are the lines of other states wanting to follow our lead. There are some good things about our system, but once you label it the "Gold Standard", you stop looking for ways to improve upon it.
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@ARDavidson @mikemckellutah Yes I would definitely want a County clerk who is against voter suppression laws. Utah’s voting system is one of the best in the Country. You belong to a political cult so you have to pretend our elections aren’t secure because your dear leader was too prideful to accept losing
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