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@ChristySimm23 @Beppekaroliner @EcciusMaximus I literally was quoting scripture in its proper context. You never confessed Mary is the Mother of God. Maybe one day you might be able to confront your errors properly, but that won't be today.

@AdeptusAutist @Beppekaroliner @EcciusMaximus Hopefully you've learned some things, like how your "church" will twist the Word of God and go to Pluto & back to try and justify blasphemic doctrine. And that's only a tiny tip of the iceberg w/the Catholic Cult. I've done my part. It's up to you now. It's your soul. 👋

This is what we mean when we say Evangelicals worship the Bible. Let me explain Marys Royalty. There are 12 tribes of Israel, Jesus was to be born of the line of David who is of the tribe of Judah, see Luke 1:32-33. In Davinic Kingdoms the mother of the King was the Queen not his wife, see 1 Kings 2:19. The Queen mother served as intercessor for the people of the Kingdom, there are many examples of this in the Bible here is one, see 1 Kings 2:13-21 especially verses 17 and 19-20. Can anybody find other examples? There are more. Jesus is King making his mother Mary the Queen. Royalty is further confirmed in Revelation 12:1 where she is described as the Queen. Danny my friend, your master Ryan NeedGod has failed you. @ChristySimm23 you too.

@ChristySimm23 For example, what you are arguing is like if I were to say "for there is one teacher, the man Mr Smith, who teaches first grade at small town elementery." Can be understood that there is only one teacher ever.

@AdeptusAutist @Beppekaroliner @EcciusMaximus This is how cartoonishly absurd you sound w/the desperate attempt to claim there's not necessarily "only one" mediator. “God didn’t say there was only one God of all things… so Zeus, Baal, and the Flying Spaghetti Monster get to join in and we can expand the Trinity, right?

@ChristySimm23 No thats a strawman you have to jump to because you cant support your argument with scripture or an English dictionary. The verse you keep referencing is very clear, yet you insist that the "One Mediator" is applying to the whole concept of mediation.

@ChristySimm23 @Beppekaroliner @EcciusMaximus You arent talking about the word, you are abusing the word outright. You are claiming that the One Mediator in 1 Tim 2 is somehow refering to the general concept of mediation, and not to the redeeming act of Christ.

@AdeptusAutist @Beppekaroliner @EcciusMaximus I wasn't talking about a "word," kid. You're literally engaged in the ACT when you pray to your Mediatrix.

@ChristySimm23 @Beppekaroliner @EcciusMaximus And that one mediator between God and man gave himself as ransom for all, that is part of the testimony to be given at the proper time. You notice the verse lacks a "thou shall not ever use the word mediator in any different context than this." Now say Mary is the Mother of God

This is the most desperate, brain-melting word-game cop-out I’ve ever witnessed. The verse doesn’t say “one primary mediator of ransom, but go ahead and add Mary as Mediatrix of all graces and treat her as your heavenly middle-woman.” It VERY CLEARLY says there is one God, and **ONE MEDIATOR** between God & men, the man Christ Jesus, who gave himself as a ransom for all

@ChristySimm23 @Beppekaroliner @EcciusMaximus You cant use the verse that directly follows the verse because it undermines your entire argument. And I said say Mary is the Mother of God, you are not ready for mariology after taking over an hour to finally accurately define mediation, and you outsourced that to Google.

You can’t defend your blasphemous doctrine, so you attack the verse that destroys it. Of course Mary is the mother of Jesus. She's also not a mediator nor was she sinless. She still called Jesus her Savior (Luke 1:47). The level of ignorance you spew is really something! And it's all to defend the Catholic Cult. Shame!

@ChristySimm23 @Beppekaroliner @EcciusMaximus Your right that isnt what the verse says, it is saying there is One Mediator who gave themselves as ransom for all. It also identifies that particular mediator as the man Jesus Christ. It doesnt say there is one and only one mediator, you arent allowed to use that word anywhere.

@AdeptusAutist @Beppekaroliner @EcciusMaximus LOL!! You're getting really pathetic & silly now! The verse doesn't say "one primary mediator of ransom, but feel free to use a substitute who dispense graces." It says there is one God and ONE MEDIATOR between God and men, the man Christ Jesus.

@ChristySimm23 @Beppekaroliner @EcciusMaximus "... who gave himself as ransom for all." This is the testimony to be given at the proper time." I know what 1 Tim 2 says, stop refering to it as if it means anything to you. Say Mary is the Mother of God.

WHAT? 😳An angel telling Mary she'd give birth to Jesus made her Mediator of all graces between God & man? Blasphemous made-up nonsense! Mary was not a goddess standing between sinners & Christ. Mary called Jesus her Savior! "There is one mediator between God and men, Christ Jesus"

@ChristySimm23 @Beppekaroliner @EcciusMaximus The mediator between God and man who themselves as ransom for all, the mediator being talked about in the 1 Tim 2:5-6. I was trying to get you to admit that not every mediator in existence is the same mediator mentioned in those verses.

@AdeptusAutist @Beppekaroliner @EcciusMaximus YOU, 50 minutes ago: "nobody says Mary is the mediator between God and man" YOU, just now: "I never denied she was a mediator"

@ChristySimm23 @Beppekaroliner @EcciusMaximus Seriously, have you never read the Annunciation? An Angel visited Mary and said she was going to give birth to Jesus, making her a middle party between God and man. Can you point to where Catholics teach that her role there replaces Christ's now?

@AdeptusAutist @Beppekaroliner @EcciusMaximus Ooh, now it's a "type" of mediator 👌 And you accuse me of moving goalposts? lol And where in the Bible is this supposed decision by God to make Mary a mediator? 🧐

@ChristySimm23 @Beppekaroliner @EcciusMaximus I never denied she was a mediator, she is a type of mediator. I rejected your stupid understanding that every mediator is a replacement of Christ. God made Mary a mediator when He chose her to be put in between Himself and humanity by giving birth to His son Jesus Christ.

@AdeptusAutist @Beppekaroliner @EcciusMaximus Is there something wrong w/you? I haven't shifted anything. How many times does it have to be defined & explained? And let's remember, all of this is because you deny that Mary is being a mediator when your own church calls her Mediatrix. 😂

@ChristySimm23 @Beppekaroliner @EcciusMaximus That's not the correct definition of intercession, thats the super specific example of intercession you need to use against Catholics, you then apply them universally to lie about what we teach.

@AdeptusAutist @Beppekaroliner @EcciusMaximus And yes, that's the definition of intercessor. Never mind that your church literally calls Mary **MEDIATRIX** (feminine for mediator).

@ChristySimm23 @Beppekaroliner @EcciusMaximus Define what the word intercession means, and then define what mediation means. You are trying to argue scripture without being clear on the words you are using. Don't try and shift the goal posts.

@AdeptusAutist @Beppekaroliner @EcciusMaximus NO. That's referring to us on earth PRAYING FOR EACH OTHER. Name ONE TIME where the apostles even hinted at praying to Mary or any other person in heaven.

@ReaperII7 @ChristySimm23 @Beppekaroliner @EcciusMaximus Retarded. Mary is the Mother of God, and is in Heaven right now with the choirs of angels worshipping and praying to God with the rest of us. Zeus probably is a demon or isn't even real, why would I ask a fake god to intercede for me?

@AdeptusAutist @ChristySimm23 @Beppekaroliner @EcciusMaximus If what you say to Mary was instead offered to zues, what you you call it?

@ChristySimm23 @Beppekaroliner @EcciusMaximus That's not the definition of intercession and there is no way you don't know that. You also have to use thr super specific type of mediator mentioned in 1 Tim 2:5-6. As opposed to the general definitions of both those terms which you are avoiding listing here.

MEDIATION: Standing between two parties (God and man) to reconcile them, convey requests, or distribute grace/help. INTERCESSION: Praying FOR someone TO GOD on their behalf. Believers on earth do this for one another directly to God (1 Timothy 2:1 "I urge that supplications, prayers, intercessions). The Catholic Church officially calls Mary “Mediatrix” (feminine of mediator) and Mediatrix of all graces. In practice, Catholics pray TO Mary. They ask her directly for help, protection, grace, conversion, and blessings. That's mediation: placing her between you and Jesus. And yet, the Bible is very clear: "For there is one God, and there is one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus”

@ChristySimm23 @Beppekaroliner @EcciusMaximus Define the word intercession then place it next to the definition of of mediation. You kind of defined one word while throwing in a strawman of the Catholic teaching, nobody says Mary is the "mediator between God and man who gave themself as ransom" for all in 1 Tim 2:5-6.

@AdeptusAutist @Beppekaroliner @EcciusMaximus I have, more than once. Go back & read your replies, please.

@ChristySimm23 @Beppekaroliner @EcciusMaximus You still need to define what intercession is, can you do that for me? Or am I good to just assume you know you are wrong and are arguing in bad faith?

Mediation = standing between two parties (God and man) to reconcile them or convey requests/grace. Intercession in Scripture = believers on earth praying FOR one another TO God. You pray TO Mary. You ask HER for help, protection, and grace. You treat her as a heavenly middle-woman who receives your requests and passes them. That IS mediation. The Bible forbids it. There is one Mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus (1 Timothy 2:5).

@ChristySimm23 @Beppekaroliner @EcciusMaximus You keep stating things you think are mediation, but I notice you haven't defined mediation. Can you do that for me, then define what intercession is before we continue?

Oh, my goodness… You’re not “joining prayer intentions.” You’re praying TO Mary. You’re asking HER for help, protection, and grace. You’re treating her as a heavenly middle-woman who receives requests and adds her own power to them. That IS mediation, no matter how many words you hide behind. Intercession in the Bible is Christians on earth praying FOR one another TO GOD.

@ChristySimm23 @Beppekaroliner @EcciusMaximus How are we playing word games? They are two different words. Mediation is joining two parties together in mutual agreement. Intercession is advocating in support of someone else. Mary is not passing prayers on to Christ, she is joining her own prayer intentions to ours.

You’re playing the dumbest word game possible. You pray to Mary. You ask her for help, protection, and grace. You treat her as a heavenly intercessor who receives requests and passes them on. That IS mediation. You’re just embarrassed to call it what it is, so you hide behind the word “intercession” as if that magically makes it biblical.

@BIG_SGT_D @Brosephos I think it's because you got an ASVAB waiver and it's the only kind of Christianity you can understand with out thinking too much.

@Brosephos Not sure. Maybe it's because we've been to the end of life with your god and our God and seen the difference.🫡

What is it with retired vets turning into reformed evangelical clown apologists? This one loves to strawman and lie. This thread is a perfect example of how disingenuous these people are. He provides memes refuting a strawman, and when given scripture that contradicts him, he throws out either an ad hominem or a red herring. These people don't realize that lying and calumny are grave sins. It's a product of their OSAS heresy.