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Capnography: Essential Everywhere w @doctimcook @ProfEllenO & @VirtueOfNothing Sun 10th Dec 21:00 GMT Mon 11th Dec 08:00 AEDT To receive a reminder email containing the livestream link or a certificate for CME recognition, register via the link below. safeairwaysociety.org/eventdetails/2…

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Final stop Perth Sat 14th Sep 08:00 - 13:00 at Fiona Stanley Hospital

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@doctimcook @TheRealAlMay @nosecglasses @AirwavesLive @NicholasChrimes @bobfunn Use of the specific phrases by all team members known as ‘systematic communication’ CUSS encourages this 👆 Probe is a useful tool but doesn’t have the advantage of including specific phrases and words

@doctimcook @TheRealAlMay @nosecglasses @AirwavesLive @NicholasChrimes @bobfunn Sorry to miss you all- agree with @doctimcook that either works well Our human factors guidelines group recommended CUSS for 2 reasons… - easier to remember - allows for team leaders to ‘listen down’ and realise that they are “being CUSS‘ed”!!! …-publications.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.111…

Comment in @AirwavesLive meeting about whether CUSS or PACE is better Graded assertiveness & hierarchy flattening I don’t mind Pick one Use one CUSS I am Concerned I an Unhappy Safety issue You must Stop PACE Probe Alert Concern Emergency @NicholasChrimes @bobfunn

15 mins until @doctimcook @ProfEllenO & @VirtueOfNothing join @NicholasChrimes & Kirstin Fraser to discuss why capnography is essential everywhere & how to use it effectively to exclude oesophageal intubation. Click the link to be part of it: youtube.com/live/E9KCjWMMR…

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Tomorrow's the day! Log into YouTube & get ready with your questions for the panel on capnography, oesophageal intubation & use of clinical signs to evaluate tube position. Sun: 21:00 GMT Mon: 8AM AEDT, 10AM NZDT safeairwaysociety.org/eventdetails/2…

@TheRealAlMay @aucklandir @doctimcook @VirtueOfNothing @ProfEllenO Yes, other signs can still be used to help IDENTIFY oesophageal intubation & raise clinical suspicion but if the criteria for 'sustained exhaled CO2' aren't met, other clinical signs can't be used to reassure you that the tube is correctly placed. Only 'valid alternative techs'.

@aucklandir @doctimcook @VirtueOfNothing @ProfEllenO No the exact problem is that that combination of things CAN'T be used to exclude oesophageal intubation. If you see it go in, have good SpO2, chest rise & breath sounds but inadeq CO2, oesophageal intubation still needs to be excluded. The other reassuring signs are irrelevant.

If you take issue with this statement, raise your concerns directly with @doctimcook @VirtueOfNothing & @ProfEllenO during this interactive livestream discussion on the essential nature of capnography.

2 days until our free, interactive panel discussion on capnography & preventing unrecognised oesophageal intubation. Register to receive a reminder email with the livestream link & an attendance certificate. safeairwaysociety.org/eventdetails/2…

3 Days to Go! Capnography: Essential Everywhere. Join the discussion with @doctimcook @ProfEllenO @VirtueOfNothing @NicholasChrimes Sun 10th Dec 21:00 GMT Mon 11th Dec 08:00 AEDT Register for reminder email, livestream link & attendance certificate safeairwaysociety.org/eventdetails/2…

I think if you check the messaging from the authors of the systematic review, it is very clear & very consistent “Clinical signs don’t usefully exclude oesophageal intubation. Capnography (sustained exhaled CO2) does.” That’s it That’s the message @NicholasChrimes @VirtueOfNothing @AndyHiggsGAA

The KEY point here is that the evidence review is not stating “clinical examination is of no value” What it DOES say is “clinical examination is of no value in excluding oesophageal intubation” Further, clinical examination can lead one down a path of misdirection that ends in patient harm The mantra “I’ve got misting & chest rise & now I’m going to look at the capnograph” needs to be replaced by “what does the capnograph show?” Once intubation is confurmed one can worry about endobronchial intubation. Worth noting that with routine VL you also see exactly how far the tube passes the cords & endobronchsil intubation is very rare.