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@Kami1215337 @DavidSamue19099 Well, trying to subtly raise a point to change the subject of the discussion seems like dodging to me. And I inquired that this is not true, after all the only argument that would have to say he wins would be "reiatsu barrier". Many ways to say rn. And I said, define "power".

@AlmightySamael @DavidSamue19099 Not at all dodging the discussion. Simply explaining that the people Itachi beat are fodder for even byakuya, even during the arrancar arc. How does Itachi beat Byakuya? I asked you to prove that Itachi has enough power to bypass the Reiatsu barrier, but you couldn’t.

Itachi wins this low to mid diff fr, you all just got to be real. Itachi's Genjutsu mastery, Tsukiyomi traps the user in a time dilated world of torture. Soul reapers have not been shown to counter any form of genjutsu, they very well struggle with Aizen's kyokai suigetsu. Amaterasu burns anything it touches without quenching, it wld completely burn Byakuyas senbonzakura petals, he'd have to discard parts of his bankai or burn trying to evade it. His Susano comes with God a tier Hax Weapons like the Yata mirror which is an indestructible shield that adapts to block any attack be it physical, energy, spiritual and Totsuka blade is a sealing sword that traps anything it pierces in an eternal genjutsu world, just one hit is completely enough to end the fight. If you still don't agree, go study fr.

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@AlmightySamael @DavidSamue19099 The fact that this claim shouldn’t be taken outside of Naruto. Even then, your argument suggests that not even Shibai otsutsuki can defeat Itachi.

@Kami1215337 @DavidSamue19099 Ad hominem will not work in the situation we are in bud. I didn't deny that he got stronger, again you are ignoring that there was no way for Ichigo to have a reiatsu that would be a small difference to his and Yhwach's reiatsu, and you know that, there is nothing confirming that

@AlmightySamael @DavidSamue19099 I did, though I’m starting to wonder if you read bleach or Naruto to be making any arguments here. Nothing to draw the power from? Ichigo was using yhwachs Reiatsu to awaken his hollow powers, and that boosted his stats by a huge margin. However, Yhwach was still more powerful

@Kami1215337 @DavidSamue19099 So it's confirmed that he was literally powerless and was just a common Quincy? So summarize, why didn't he do it?

@AlmightySamael @DavidSamue19099 Powers (plural). Did you read the manga? This point is addressed during that scene.

@Kami1215337 @DavidSamue19099 I already explained that the NLF does not apply to this case, but if you persist in considering it, your argument may be framed as a Appeal Fixed rule argument out of context and appeal to tradition, Which would make much more sense in this case.

@AlmightySamael @DavidSamue19099 And there’s the NLF.

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@AlmightySamael @DavidSamue19099 I’m just going to leave this here

@Kami1215337 @DavidSamue19099 Now you also have to have knowledge about the power to nullify? Another new rule? wasn't it passive? And in the beginning, when he was defeated by a few blows, wasn't there this difference? If being low diff by someone doesn't point to being weaker, what does in fact?

@AlmightySamael @DavidSamue19099 Because they weren’t aware of his schrift at the time. And again, there requires a large enough gap to do that.

@Kami1215337 @DavidSamue19099 But this is confirmed right? Because I think it would be too convenient, if he wasn't stronger than the 3 why did they need to team up? And in the beginning there was this power difference, so much so that he was easily defeated, so how did it not nullify his powers?

@AlmightySamael @DavidSamue19099 He gains more power, but not enough to negate their abilities. I already told you there requires a significant gap in power.

@Kami1215337 @DavidSamue19099 There isn't an objective consensus, do you realize he would have to connect the entire planet including all animals? This is absurd, that's why it's probably. Watch which part exactly? Okay, it can probably be that, but there's no confirmation, you understand?

@AlmightySamael @DavidSamue19099 “Probably” isn’t confirmation. There objectively a consensus. Please watch Naruto before arguing this. Hagoromo shared chakra with everyone. It’s all in the link provided, with footnotes for further backing.

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@AlmightySamael @DavidSamue19099 How was it for several times? Yhwach was looking at the direct future. The most immediate future. He wasn’t stronger than Aizen during the first invasion. He wasn’t aware of it because it remains dormant until Aizen chooses.

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@AlmightySamael @DavidSamue19099 So can you prove, with confirmed multipliers, that Itachi is 100x+ faster than Sasuke? Without any confirmation, this is pure speculation at best.

@Kami1215337 @DavidSamue19099 Don't confuse Naruto with Bleach, as I said they are structurally different systems, most of the fights Itachi had he was the weakest, his victory is not due to the sheer amount of power. Win ≠ Be stronger. In Naruto's case, it's interpretation, not method and what about Bleach?

@AlmightySamael @DavidSamue19099 What third party feats (aka, characters weaker than Itachi) does Itachi have to go off of to make him stronger than these characters? It’s not a different mechanic. It’s a lack in consistent methods of scaling.

@Kami1215337 @DavidSamue19099 Of course not, you are allowed to disagree and go check the temporal cosmology of these works, feel free. Those verses were just examples, any verse with extreme predestination and loop will do. There's still more than meets the eye, seriously what novels?

@AlmightySamael @DavidSamue19099 And using AI as an argument isn’t the same as getting the source from the games you mentioned. And the fandom links the necessary chapters and info in its footnotes if you disagree. Even the novels suggest that chakra exists in all things.

@Kami1215337 @DavidSamue19099 But is it possible to do that now? Because I was told before that it was passive to the barrier. And he was a Captain, the difference in power between him and Shinji was clear precisely because of the difference in their positions. Is it confirmed?

@AlmightySamael @DavidSamue19099 Aizen explains that he allowed it to pass him by, working on him so he couldn’t show the difference in their power. He was holding his Reiatsu back against them.

@Kami1215337 @DavidSamue19099 Well, you sent it to me, I believe you read it, right? You wouldn't send me something without reading it first, I believe in this, so you must already have the answer on the tip of your tongue, can speak. In naruto.

@AlmightySamael @DavidSamue19099 It’s in the link. There’s footnotes to where you can find this

@Kami1215337 @DavidSamue19099 You've left me with more doubts now, and I need you to explain and clarify some things. Is it possible to have chakra without having flow? If something doesn't have flow, does it not have chakra, and would the opposite be true? you are referring to Itachi or genjutsu in general?

@AlmightySamael @DavidSamue19099 So now we understand that we’ve never seen Itachi use genjutsu on someone without chakra.

@Kami1215337 @DavidSamue19099 Also says it's impossible to dodge, and yet Naruto dodged it while being A little over a meter probably away from him. exists in other cases it can simply appear depending on the distance like amaterasu, or instantaneous functioning, it's something that is no longer tied to speed

@AlmightySamael @DavidSamue19099 Storm fang, which is stated to be light speed. Does anything suggest that it’s impossible to dodge for anything other than its speed?

@Kami1215337 @DavidSamue19099 But I didn't say it doesn't work in Naruto and Boruto, but rather in certain fictional universes with a closed timeline. But if we take it that way, Boruto has futures that cannot be predicted, as warned by Kashin Koji.

@AlmightySamael @DavidSamue19099 Naruto objectively has a timeline, and has multiple futures, as has been shown in Boruto.

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@AlmightySamael @DavidSamue19099 Nope. I objectively did not say that. Now you’re lying about what I’m saying.im saying that the almighty is the power to see and alter the future. It does both. Never said theyre the same. I’m saying the power does both. Also what does this have to do with Naruto?

@Kami1215337 @DavidSamue19099 Please watch what you're saying. She said that precisely because you can only change the future if you are seeing it, if you can show me yhwach changing the future without seeing it, that might change things. Read what comes before this statement, don't be stubborn.

@AlmightySamael @DavidSamue19099 What was suggested here by your AI reasoning was that seeing the future and altering it are two different things. I already explained that Yhwach has both abilities.