Purple crow 332 (Honse 🐴)
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@Torakluver @ChurchofSatan @ClovenHoof1337 @BereanHouse @WhisperingKers Correct, not all satanists think the same way, let alone all people.
And exactly because of that quoting Socrates about losing a debate is not the gotcha you think it is.
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@Armix017 @ChurchofSatan @ClovenHoof1337 @BereanHouse @WhisperingKers This is irrelevant to my point. Also, FYI not all Satanist believe the same way. Many Satanists would probably say mockery should target hypocrisy, authoritarianism, or harmful behavior, not just random disagreement.
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Satanism isn’t “just atheism” any more than Catholicism is “just theism.” Those are simple binary classifications of religions with rich history, traditions, rituals and scripture.
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@Zo_bo_fo_sho Who are clearly very miffed at the suggestion that their worldview is "just atheism".
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@Torakluver @ChurchofSatan @BereanHouse @WhisperingKers Plus, it's not an argument, just an observation
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@Armix017 @ChurchofSatan @BereanHouse @WhisperingKers That’s not really making a coherent argument there.
ToraRaion@Torakluver
@Armix017 @ChurchofSatan @BereanHouse @WhisperingKers How can you claim projection? My comment was on your post not you. Unbiased research. I know about COS, Judaism, Buddhism, many forms of Christianity. I can’t be apart of all of them. Open a book or read an article and read unbiasedly. Take a course. Make friends.
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@Torakluver @Armix017 @BereanHouse @WhisperingKers The stated foundation in question, explicitly theistic:
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@Torakluver @ChurchofSatan @BereanHouse @WhisperingKers Again, suspicion is not a full claim. But you already knew that.
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@Torakluver @ChurchofSatan @ClovenHoof1337 @BereanHouse @WhisperingKers It's completely relevant, it's like saying "oh, this comedian makes jokes, how dumb" as an attempt of a gotcha. Plus, it isn't a point, it was an image with a quote.
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@Armix017 @ChurchofSatan @ClovenHoof1337 @BereanHouse @WhisperingKers Cool story. Whether or not I know Satanism is irrelevant to the point I made.
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@Torakluver @ChurchofSatan @BereanHouse @WhisperingKers Funny, if I had told you "your comment fits your posts" you would've said "oh, that's bad faith", "stick to the argument" or the Socrates quote.
This only raises my suspicion of your projection further.
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@Armix017 @ChurchofSatan @BereanHouse @WhisperingKers I don’t personally attack you. Your comment fits your posts. Your words fits your words perfectly. Words are not you.
I don’t value your biased opinions. Your opinions don’t define me, they define you.
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@Torakluver @ChurchofSatan @BereanHouse @WhisperingKers So much for the "The loser starts to slander" bit.
And my comment fits, you have shown to only have surface-level knowledge.
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@Armix017 @ChurchofSatan @BereanHouse @WhisperingKers Take your own advice your comment fits perfectly with your posts.
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@Torakluver @ChurchofSatan @ClovenHoof1337 @BereanHouse @WhisperingKers So you don't actually know about Satanism, figured.
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@Torakluver @ChurchofSatan @BereanHouse @WhisperingKers I haven't claimed projection yet, suspicion isn't a claim.
You have claimed bad faith argumentation when it hasn't been the case, and you haven't been arguing with good faith.
Maybe you should spend more time actually learning instead of making yourself look this bad online.
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@Armix017 @ChurchofSatan @BereanHouse @WhisperingKers How can you claim projection?
My comment was on your post not you.
Unbiased research. I know about COS, Judaism, Buddhism, many forms of Christianity. I can’t be apart of all of them.
Open a book or read an article and read unbiasedly. Take a course. Make friends.
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@Torakluver @ChurchofSatan @ClovenHoof1337 @BereanHouse @WhisperingKers A part of Satanism is to make fun of stupidity. It isn't really slander.
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@Torakluver @ChurchofSatan @BereanHouse @WhisperingKers I'm not the kind of guy to claim "projection" out of nowhere, but you're making me start to suspect.
And by the way, how would you know what their actual beliefs are? You're not even part of them, right?
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@Armix017 @ChurchofSatan @BereanHouse @WhisperingKers Bad faith.
The source is a self-positioned rebuttal document
not a neutral academic source
not primary evidence of TST’s internal intent or beliefs
Though its states TST started as satire/performance.
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@Torakluver @ChurchofSatan @BereanHouse @WhisperingKers Because thanks to them (as a whole) we have ignorant people claiming everything they do is satanism.
Also, it's called a "fact sheet" because it has facts in it.
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@Armix017 @ChurchofSatan @BereanHouse @WhisperingKers If you are calling TST a troll organization why are you taking a troll statement so seriously and literally.
That ‘fact’ sheet:
It’s a self-positioned rebuttal document
not a neutral academic source
not primary evidence of TST’s internal intent or beliefs
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@Armix017 @ChurchofSatan @BereanHouse @WhisperingKers Why? That link actually helps me more.
Early activity was:
staged
satirical
mockumentary-influenced
It’s not “They literally claimed to be a theistic devil-worship religion and then reversed it”
You are making satire to be literal.
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@ClovenHoof1337 @Torakluver @ChurchofSatan @BereanHouse @WhisperingKers Right?! What do they win from all of this?
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@Torakluver @Armix017 @ChurchofSatan @BereanHouse @WhisperingKers x.com/i/status/20525…
It's strange that you're running damage control this hard for an organization you're not even a member of.
ToraRaion@Torakluver
@ChurchofSatan @Armix017 @BereanHouse @WhisperingKers I’m not ignoring facts, I’m separating presentation style from literal theological belief. I agree early TST messaging was provocative, serious in tone, and intentionally attention-grabbing. Facts don’t agree with your framing. I am not from TST so your argument falls apart.
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@Torakluver @ChurchofSatan @BereanHouse @WhisperingKers Oh, the fact sheet that proves with documents and archives that TST is a troll organization and not a religion? What about it?
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@Torakluver @ChurchofSatan @BereanHouse @WhisperingKers I was this close to posting it for you to read.
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@Torakluver @ChurchofSatan @BereanHouse @WhisperingKers "That isn’t the case here." Prove it.
What changed was presentation, structure, and legal/public/ press/political approach, not the underlying troll foundation.
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@Armix017 @ChurchofSatan @BereanHouse @WhisperingKers The claim that “messaging inconsistency = lack of credibility” assumes we are dealing with a fixed doctrinal theology that shifted. That isn’t the case here.
What changed was presentation, structure, and legal/public framing, not the underlying non-theistic foundation.
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@Torakluver @ChurchofSatan @BereanHouse @WhisperingKers Messaging inconsistency = lack of credibility
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@Torakluver @ChurchofSatan @BereanHouse @WhisperingKers Their stated foundation has inconsistently been non-theistic. The organization shifted from early provocative messaging to more structured legal and public-facing pseudo-work. It demonstrates lack of evolution in communication and strategy.
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