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@atlanticesque

New England nationalist, in-exile. Paleo-radical. Town-keeper. Jones Act Enforcer. Triborough loyalist. Jewelmonger. Smells, bells, and oyster shells. 🌲📯⚓️

new-york citie Katılım Ekim 2018
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𝖓𝖎𝖓𝖊 🕯@atlanticesque·
Reminder that the whole earth, perpetually steeped in blood, is nothing but a vast altar upon which all that is living must be sacrificed without end, without measure, without pause, until the consummation of things, until evil is extinct, until the death of death.
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Keturah Abigail
Keturah Abigail@KeturahAbigail·
Nobody is legally obligated to get a SSN. My grandpa, father, and I have all been to various IRS offices in order to speak to agents about this. And yes, the Amish pay sales and property taxes, as do I. Those who don't have SSN aren't paying income.
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First, if you're ineligible for an ITIN (because eligible for an SSN) and you owe (non-negligible) taxes to the IRS, then you have a legal obligation to obtain an SSN, derivative of § 301.6109-1(d)(1), (a)(1)(ii)(A); case law explicitly rejects voluntary refusal to obtain an SSN as freeing you from tax obligations. Second, even legally not having an SSN or ITIN still doesn't free you from tax obligations. Even in the trickiest cases the IRS can issue IRSNs which allow for the unnumbered to pay taxes. Again, you surely do not owe enough in taxes for the IRS to bother you about this, but if you did, the IRS doesn't need to play your games. (Moreover, the IRS could hit you with a 6702 fine.) Third, the Amish do pay taxes, and the extent to which they are exempt from certain administrative obligations is statutory, so your analogy of yourself to them is specious. For example, the 1402(g)/3127 exception only applies to members of certain qualifying sects which have continuously existed since before 1950. This is an explicit accommodation for the Amish, and not something you can just claim. You're Roman Catholic, the Pope does not forbid you from obtaining an SSN. x.com/KeturahAbigail…

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𝖓𝖎𝖓𝖊 🕯@atlanticesque·
@HughLouisDewey @KeturahAbigail Yes but she’s urging mothers to not let their children obtain SSNs because that relieves them of the duty to pay taxes. It’s actually just setting them up for administrative headaches.
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𝖓𝖎𝖓𝖊 🕯@atlanticesque·
@Primal_Birth @KeturahAbigail If you think taxes are unjust (as Keturah does, because they fund inter alia war and abortion) so you don’t want to pay, great! Civil disobedience! Break the law to stand up for your beliefs! But you are breaking the law. And you ought to know that. There is no loophole here.
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Colin@Colin_d_m·
Same guy who made the original post. Sorry life didn’t work out for you, doesn’t mean you have to an asshole
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𝖓𝖎𝖓𝖊 🕯@atlanticesque·
First, if you're ineligible for an ITIN (because eligible for an SSN) and you owe (non-negligible) taxes to the IRS, then you have a legal obligation to obtain an SSN, derivative of § 301.6109-1(d)(1), (a)(1)(ii)(A); case law explicitly rejects voluntary refusal to obtain an SSN as freeing you from tax obligations. Second, even legally not having an SSN or ITIN still doesn't free you from tax obligations. Even in the trickiest cases the IRS can issue IRSNs which allow for the unnumbered to pay taxes. Again, you surely do not owe enough in taxes for the IRS to bother you about this, but if you did, the IRS doesn't need to play your games. (Moreover, the IRS could hit you with a 6702 fine.) Third, the Amish do pay taxes, and the extent to which they are exempt from certain administrative obligations is statutory, so your analogy of yourself to them is specious. For example, the 1402(g)/3127 exception only applies to members of certain qualifying sects which have continuously existed since before 1950. This is an explicit accommodation for the Amish, and not something you can just claim. You're Roman Catholic, the Pope does not forbid you from obtaining an SSN. x.com/KeturahAbigail…
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𝖓𝖎𝖓𝖊 🕯@atlanticesque·
I hate to harshly criticize a small, personal writer who clearly has very little understanding of how anything works, but I’d hate to see someone take her advice and get in trouble. I’d suggest she retract these claims and leave the article as a (somewhat tedious) ethics essay.
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𝖓𝖎𝖓𝖊 🕯@atlanticesque·
Leaving aside the question of whether it is a moral duty to evade taxes, I must stress that this claim is not correct. If you owe taxes to the U.S., and you do not have an SSN, you’re legally obligated to obtain an ITIN and file using that instead. 26 CFR § 301.6109-1(d)(3)(ii)
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Keturah Abigail@KeturahAbigail

Most people hate paying taxes, but when I tell people I don't have a social security number they often respond in contempt. Why wouldn't I pay taxes? I answer this question by sharing a story about Dorothy Day, the Catholic Worker who resisted the IRS and won

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roctakon@roctakon·
Main takeaway from a few days in NYC is the old black and Ellis islander identity that defined the culture and front facing image of the city has been totally replaced by modern globalhomo poc left thing. Sinatra at the end of a Yankee game is a relic of the past.
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𝖓𝖎𝖓𝖊 🕯@atlanticesque·
@lion_tender She didn’t say “I’m not required to file because I have no income,” she said “it is impossible for people without SSNs to file taxes” while urging parents to refrain from giving their children SSNs
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liontender@lion_tender·
@atlanticesque I hate to I-didn't-eat-breakfast this... but ... is she required to file? Surely based on what the family has disclosed about their finances, they would be owed a tax refund if she or they filed an accurate return.
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𝖓𝖎𝖓𝖊 🕯@atlanticesque·
@constans Of course she doesn’t owe anything personally, but I’d hate to see someone who does take her word for it
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constans@constans·
@atlanticesque I assume she simply makes little to no income and thus doesn’t need to file taxes and/or doesn’t make enough to make it worth the while if the IRS to go after.
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Keturah Abigail
Keturah Abigail@KeturahAbigail·
Most people hate paying taxes, but when I tell people I don't have a social security number they often respond in contempt. Why wouldn't I pay taxes? I answer this question by sharing a story about Dorothy Day, the Catholic Worker who resisted the IRS and won
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