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Athens, Greece Katılım Mayıs 2012
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$ASTS: This $30M award is a "prototype" under SDA's HALO Europa Track 2. So how much potential $ are we talking here?
1) A successful Track 2 demo can lead to additional task orders - repeat orders for additional exercises, new waveform/radio integrations, more coverage areas, higher availability, etc = "Low hundreds of millions over time"
2) If SDA/DoD decide AST’s commercial D2D/tactical concept meaningfully reduces risk for operational layers, the prize is in the tranches. SDA is already placing multi-billion-dollar satellite orders for Proliferated Warfighter Space Architecture layers = "hundreds of millions over time"
3) AST frames the opportunity as a "data products as-a-service" using existing commercial infrastructure. If DoD procurement shifts toward buying commercial satcom service the program could be "in the multi-billion range over time"
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@tottaway22 If I make a calculation: 40 BBs * $35mil = $1.4Bn and 5 launches 5* 85 mil (avg Glenn/Falcon) = $425mil. Total ~$1.8Bn I hope this to have happened but it seems huge. Imagine that even chips' tariffs have gone a few weeks before (supply cost secured).
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@tottaway22 @StillPlaysCrick This is actually very bullish:
✔️ Launch cost is not a permanent margin drag
✔️ Unit economics improve automatically with scale
✔️ Incremental satellites after break-even are extremely profitable
✔️ Depreciation understates future cash generation
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@StillPlaysCrick They capitalize & depreciate launch costs. The line in the 10q is “satellite materials and advance payments, satellites under construction, and advance launch payments.”
From 10k description
“Property and Equipment
We design and self-construct the BB satellites intended to

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@tottaway22 @StillPlaysCrick The confusion comes from mixing two different perspectives: 1️⃣ Accounting definition (GAAP / balance sheet) vs 2️⃣ Cash deployment / near-term build-out economics
The 10-K has how costs are capitalized on the balance sheet, not how cash flows behave in early vs late deployment.
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@JoshGregersen @thekookreport Why this distinction is critical
1️⃣ “Average” ≠ “Marginal”
In capital-intensive infrastructure, CFOs often quote:
Average cost at full scale, not cash cost per unit today Average cost=Total satellitesTotal/constellation capex
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@AtmosLab @thekookreport On the last earnings call the CFO said, “We continue to estimate that the average capital costs, including direct materials and launch costs for our constellation of over 90 Block 2 Bluebird satellites, will fall in the range of $21 million-$23 million per satellite.”
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@JoshGregersen @thekookreport ❌ It is NOT:
The near-term cost for the first 45–60 satellites
The marginal cost per satellite on early launches
The cash cost per satellite if deployment stops at 45–60
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@JoshGregersen @thekookreport What the CFO actually means (correct interpretation)
✅ The $21–23M figure is:
A fully averaged, steady-state, at-scale capital cost per satellite,
amortized across a ~90+ satellite constellation, including launch.
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@JoshGregersen @thekookreport $21–23M per Block-2 satellite, this figure refers to:
Satellite hardware & materials
Assembly & integration
Testing and quality control
Factory overhead allocated per unit
Yield improvements at scale (“mature production”)
It is not an all-in deployed cost.
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@AtmosLab @thekookreport Yes, it’s much too conservative. I am saying the satellite production cost in the low 20s/satellite includes average launch cost/satellite. That means you’re underestimating current funding by nearly $1bn. And again, that also doesn’t include expenses already prepaid.
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@JoshGregersen @thekookreport The $22M does NOT include:
🚀 Launch services (Falcon 9, New Glenn, etc.)
Insurance
Launch integration fees
Ground segment / network capex
Spectrum / regulatory costs
Launch is always disclosed and modeled separately.
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