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Who Invented the Golden Rule?

@NotionAdeptus @evilsteveve No creation? You don’t label things that exist because a mind produced it, like a car, created?

@AxiomSolos @evilsteveve The only definition of god that adequately facilitates debate is that which created life/universe/reality. But proper atheists claim their was no beginning. Therefore no creation

How can there be an atheist worldview when atheists don't agree on anything. Not even the definition of the word atheist.

@evilsteveve Perhaps in the future you’ll be able to articulate an answer.

@AxiomSolos Far too many views to answer this well.

@evilsteveve Which ideas in your view?

@AxiomSolos Yes.

@evilsteveve Yes, you believe they’re worshiping an idea, a fictional construct of a being, produced by human minds, right? Do you think some ideas of God are harmful, and others less harmful? Are some ideas of God a net positive?

@AxiomSolos I think that they're worshiping is only in their mind. They can describe it how ever they want.

@evilsteveve So when people claim to worship God, they’d claim to be worshipping: - a real self-aware being of non-Earth origin. However, you think, they’re actually worshiping: - an idea collective wisdom of Earth, (or a portion of it) has produced. Would you say that’s right?

@AxiomSolos I don't think that at all.

@evilsteveve Meaning, you think a self-aware being/beings of non-Earth origin have made contact with humans, and humans worship these beings? If that’s accurate, why do you think that?

@AxiomSolos I think they are worshipping a real self-aware being of non-Earth origin.

@evilsteveve When people claim to worship God, they’d claim to be worshipping a real self-aware being of non-Earth origin, however, you think, they’re actually worshiping an idea collective wisdom (or a portion of it) has produced, right?

@AxiomSolos I don't think any god must exist. I wouldn't call our collective wisdom anything more than it is.

@evilsteveve A maximally powerful/knowledgeable self-aware entity must exist, right? At the very least, that entity would be our collective wisdom, right? Do you have any issue labeling that God?

@AxiomSolos Sure it might exist, lots of things we can imagine might exist. Are there any reasons to believe it does exist? No, people can believe what they want, I believed in God for 15 years.

@VeritasQ68414 If you become a better person than yesterday via Christianity, then that is your path.

With us being uniquely different it comes across differently for each individual as does the paths that lead them there. The atheistic scientist turned Christian has a different Experiential account of finding God than the Muslim turned Christian or Jew and that goes into every scope of culture. As for me, as a young adult I had to confront the evil trajectory of my life and mental vulnerability and the downward spiral that was going to lead to either my being arrested or killed. So I was truly seeking and Jesus was not my first choice. I first sought experiences with all available alternatives but they couldn't remove my trouble. By the time I considered Jesus I was bottomed out, and my words to God was "either prove to me you are real or I'm going to end it" He proved Himself to me beyond my own doubts but It cost me most of my old relationships and my old life style but I have no regrets. It happened outside of a Christian environment and I am still not "churched".

Christians: Is it a true statements that, the best evidence you can provide for the existance of (the being you label) God, is a book (Bible) that has stories involving talking animals?

@___loth___ @DrFrankTurek Who should you listen to?

@AxiomSolos @DrFrankTurek Why should I listen to what scientists say nowadays since all they say will be outdated in the near future?

When you think you have a scientific consensus that miracles don't occur, you don't have a scientific consensus based on the evidence; you have a scientific consensus based on the bias against the miraculous because they've already decided that miracles don't occur.

@VeritasQ68414 What’s a “true seeker?” What does “denying self” entail?

Lets grant in part the Bible: Only one "sign" is for the hardened Skeptic: the Resurrection: “An evil and adulterous generation craves a sign. Yet no sign will be given to it except the sign of the prophet Jonah, because just as Jonah was in the stomach of the sea creature for three days and three nights, so the Son of Man will be in the heart of the earth for three days and three nights". According to observation- the God of Christianity does Not consider providing conclusive evidence as a crucial substrate, He requires something more: many streams of inconclusive evidence operate as pointers, not axioms, only a True Seeker will find Him, and it comes at the cost of denying self.

@BRijswijk @evilsteveve The point is, you can’t define God when asked. Use dictionary.com or an AI if you’re stuck, and get on that. 👍🏼

@AxiomSolos @evilsteveve You don’t understand the point then. Too bad. Good luck with that.

@BRijswijk @evilsteveve Here’s what you said. “Me no define God. Me outsource to not me.” 😵‍💫 Claiming you won’t define a term for yourself, isn’t smarts. It’s lazy thinking. 🤙🏼

@AxiomSolos @evilsteveve Read again what I wrote… this time try to understand it. You can do it!

@BRijswijk @evilsteveve When you say “God,” how are you defining that term?

@AxiomSolos @evilsteveve It’s not up to me to define the gods I don’t believe to exist. That would be attacking a strawman. It’s up to the theist to define their god and provide compelling evidence. None has succeed, hence I’m an atheist.

@IAmSubjugated @TotalPhilo Can you please tell me how you’d define morality? What would you say is most prominent feature/metric how you’d distinguish a moral act from an immoral one?

@AxiomSolos @TotalPhilo Self reflection. You have never in your life let anyone else tell you what right and wrong are. Because it's a feeling. Feelings are subjective.

Objective Morality

@IAmSubjugated @TotalPhilo What’s the best evidence for this?

@TotalPhilo It is objectively the case that morality is subjective.

@evilsteveve If we label that being God, such a being may exist, right? Do you see any issue with many citizens worshiping the idea of this being?

@AxiomSolos Seems fine.

It’s up to the individual to be able to define what they mean when they say God though, right? I don’t believe in ghosts, but I can define it. Do you have a problem comparing God claims against this definition of God to check validity? A maximally powerful, maximally knowledgeable self aware entity that created all things that are not eternal?

@AxiomSolos I don't care how we define it. I think it's up to those who believe in a God do say what they mean. I'm still going to believe it's false, unless it's a squirrel.

@evilsteveve For the all knowing/powerful version, the issue I have with that definition, is it defines God as a logically impossible being, which cannot exist, so it’s easy to dismiss God. Why not define God with a definition that doesn’t contain the logically impossible?

@AxiomSolos I think supernatural being, but that doesn't necessarily work. For God, I go with all-knowing, all powerful and all good creator and moral giver.

@evilsteveve What qualifies as a god or gods to you?

@AxiomSolos In god or gods.