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@TSoS_ The weird things you mention are brief and only aesthetically weird, not conceptually weird, nothing that really challenges the audience that much, not like murderous abomination Alia could've been. Paul's prescience is barely delved into at all, when it's essential in the books

I often see people claim Denis Villeneuve is shying away from the 'weirdness' of Dune and I think that sentiment misunderstands the first novel. Alia the talking fetus, the Harkonnen spider creature and everything happening on Giedi Prime - a monochrome planet rooted in BDSM culture - Paul's visions - way trippier than in the book - the constant, ominous vibes of the Bene Gesserit and even a baby sandworm. Denis Villeneuve's Dune IS strange and weird and in some ways, I would argue it actually goes beyond Herbert's work in that regard. Dune (1965) is a fairly straightforward work of science-fiction that remains mostly practical and grounded. Herbert was focused on Imperial Politics and Space Imperialism, Religion and Ecology and the concept of power. It wasn't his goal to create a grotesquely strange world and he never really did. Some people simply seem to have warped memories of the first novel due to Jodorowsky and Lynch. The book is not a constantly psychedelic, absurdist story; the drug plays a role, but I feel some people oversimplify the story and claim everyone is constantly and completely high. Dune (1965) isn't filled with the plethora of strange concepts you see in the later books. Shape-shifting Tleilaxu Face-Dancers, Gholas, a human-worm hybrid creature, Chairdogs. It doesn't have a guild navigator show up every two pages. They are mentioned, but neither described nor shown until Messiah so it makes sense we haven't seen them yet. I have complete faith that he will capture the weirder lore aspects and characters of Dune: Messiah brilliantly in Dune: Part Three.

@TSoS_ Aesthetically weird, not conceptually weird. A black and white world looks really cool but it doesn't exactly challenge the viewer at all.

15 minutes of pure, brilliant otherworldliness and people still act like Villeneuve's is doing some boring vanilla take on Dune that isn't 'weird enough.'

@ProtonInspector It's only those blink and you'll miss it moments. Nothing essential to the story is weird. There's no murderous toddler Alia or psychedelic visions.

People who say Villeneuve hasn’t given us anything weird in Dune are clearly forgetting the Harkonnen pet

@thewillmorgs19 @hairball1952 it might have a similar sentiment but it's a completely different style of lyric writing

@BShears44690 @hairball1952 Doesn’t have to use the same language device, can just be vibes. That phrase has the same vibes as gimme some truth

@hairball1952 What people don't seem to get is that by the time that John was heavy into his iconoclasm and critiquing society he had largely grown tired of his whole wordplay shtick and would never in a million years have deigned to use a metaphor such as a 'leaky pipe'

@thewillmorgs19 @hairball1952 where in that song does he use a metaphor such as a leaky pipe

@BShears44690 @hairball1952 Gimme some truth

@WCD__ @hairball1952 this should've been in the original tweet

@BShears44690 @hairball1952

@paulojro13 @hairball1952 where in that song does he use a metaphor such as a leaky pipe?

@BShears44690 @hairball1952 Working class hero

it's funny how much more entertaining the random tangents on society are in god emperor vs in children of dune. i guess frank herbert stumbled on the secret that anything is more digestible when in the form of a big worm guy lecturing an increasingly befuddled duncan idaho

Duke Leto was shooting nothing but terrifying anomalies into Lady Jessica. Absurd.

@LibrarianPoster Just say you disagree with Lynch. There's nothing wrong with disagreeing with Lynch but pretending that they're totally different things just undermines your point

"The movie is the talking" very very obviously meant something different to Lynch when he was saying it than what people are trying to apply it to now with PTA to save face, it's really pathetic

@Kiwiscricketfan i could watch that first shot over and over again

#OnThisDay in 2018, Ross Taylor (181*) played one of the most memorable innings in ODI cricket guiding New Zealand to a thrilling 5-wicket victory while chasing England's 335/9.

@DustyFyodor @charlescwcooke What they did was they took the Black American girl group style songs and injected rock n roll guitars. That was what made them sound so new and fresh - it was innovative. No one else sounded like them in 1963

@charlescwcooke You think "I want to hold your hand" had creative depth and technical innovation? If you were a real Beatles fan you'd know the Beatles, to their credit, openly admitted they were just copying Americans and for that reason feared touring USA at first. But enjoy your cult.

Then you've always been completely wrong. x.com/Kulambq/status…

@ltsreallove well that was very observant of you because it isn't a bob dylan pastiche actually

@LIBRAL0GY it's a coincidence that both have an honorable lord who is asked by the emperor/king to rule, reluctantly accepts, is surrounded by enemies from his arrival, is betrayed and killed by the evil and incestuous house, and is succeeded by his child(ren) who vow to avenge him?

the comparisons between ASOIAF and Dune are exactly this

@DonaldClarke63 Why do people act like previous adaptations being similarly unfaithful means that this one is any less of an unfaithful adaptation? Completely nonsensical

Hello everyone. This is not remotely what happens in “WUTHERING HEIGHTS”. The arc of the story is as close to that in the novel as was the 1939 version.

@lizziethat Also looking at How to Train Your Dragon

I've become much better at accepting changes from book to movie/tv adaptations, but if you're going to change everything *but* the characters' names and setting then why not just do something original? Looking at you, Wuthering Heights.

@DonaldClarke63 Cathy dies halfway through the book! How can it be the main story???

@BShears44690 Even if it were true that the romance between them was not the “main story” it would still be, among other things, a love story. But that *plainly* is the main story.

It doesn’t matter how awful the characters are. It’s plainly still a love story.