@DrDanGreaves @DrNickDalmon @Keir_Starmer I'm assuming you never wear a seat belt because there no future data on whether you will have a collision?
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@B_G_Gruff @DrNickDalmon @Keir_Starmer There is a lot of theorised harm but no direct evidence. I'm not trying to gaslight I'm asking for evidence. There have been incidents related to poor trust preparation and poor staffing in some institutions, this is a managerial and trust level fault not the junior doctors.
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I believe in workers’ right to strike.
But the strikes next week planned by resident doctors should not happen, they place the NHS and patients who need it in grave danger.
A fair deal is on the table. My message to doctors is simple: take it.
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@Dave__Chambers @DrHuw @B_G_Gruff @Keir_Starmer I have read it. You choose to glibly ignore 5 deaths that the coroner has indicated concerns about? In relation to industrial action being a potentially contributing factor to death?
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@DrDanGreaves @DrNickDalmon @Keir_Starmer Yes, there are coroners reports, and all the reports into strikes acknowledge that wide harm will have been caused although difficult to detect in hospital mortality data. You know this & it saddens me a Dr would wish to gaslight.
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@B_G_Gruff @DrNickDalmon @Keir_Starmer Do you have hard evidence or just supposition to support your claim that patients come to harm during strikes? Because all the evidence out there suggests the opposite.
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@DrDanGreaves @DrNickDalmon @Keir_Starmer No, it depends on skill. A critical scan being delayed or results not being checked can cause harm/ death. The task of ordering the scan or escalating results to a consultant isn't complex, but fewer People on shift will mean it takes longer.
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@B_G_Gruff @DrNickDalmon @Keir_Starmer Ant evidence for 'significant delays for time critical diagnosis and treatment'? Or is it just supposition?
It all comes back to: either we're too important to strike and therefore our pay demand is justified, or we're all just useless trainees in which case it doesn't matter.
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@implausibleblog What you think this 'doctor' who knows from coroners reports that patients will die from the strike & will lead it anyway, for a spuriously calculated pay level from over a decade before he even started medical school, has more credibility than someone concerned for patients?
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Chair of the BMA Resident Doctors, Dr Jack Fletcher
Accuses Wes Streeting of fear-mongering over flu
Because while cases in hospital are high, we're nowhere near the levels of previous years
And that's all you need to know about Keir Starmer and Wes Streeting, they're more interested in over inflating safety concerns and less interested in in patient safety, which is what the doctors are calling for
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@OliverRyanUK 100%. We need emergency legislation to make NHS Dr strikes illegal
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Outrageous. Stuff the NHS and the patients, ey lads! 🤑
The BMA would probably be happy with a Reform UK Insurance-based US-style private health system, because their pay would probably rocket...
Henry Zeffman@hzeffman
NEW: Resident (formerly junior) doctors have rejected the government's offer to avert this week's strike. 83% rejected the offer on a 65% turnout in an online survey
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@DrDanGreaves @DrNickDalmon @Keir_Starmer Only anaesthetists have tried to tell me patients won't suffer harm. Anaesthetics is particularly consultant involved, perhaps that shapes your perception. But there will be significant delays to time critical diagnosis and treatment. That will be on your conscience, not mine.
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@B_G_Gruff @DrNickDalmon @Keir_Starmer Unfortunately there is no alternative to patient inconvenience during a strike but I lay this at the door or DHSC. This set of strikes is about pay, there has been no offer on pay.
A multi year CPI +2-3% pay deal would likely end this within a week.
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@DrDanGreaves @DrNickDalmon @Keir_Starmer If you honestly think that patients will only be inconvenienced then the only thing we will be able to agree on is that the BMA cherry pick 'facts'.
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@B_G_Gruff @DrNickDalmon @Keir_Starmer Statements of fact then:
Doctors are still underpaid.
Evidence suggests mortality actually falls during strikes, and derogations are available in extremis.
The greatest risk to patient safety is NHSE and DHSC insistence on maintaining 95% capacity.
Patients will be inconvenienced
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@Frankel001 @DrHuw @Dave__Chambers @Keir_Starmer They will deny all facts you put in front of them, the BMA just has a programme of gaslighting
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@DrHuw @Dave__Chambers @B_G_Gruff @Keir_Starmer Well it seems coroner's have more serious concerns that your arrogance seems immune to.
bmj.com/content/390/bm…
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@DrDanGreaves @DrNickDalmon @Keir_Starmer The way I look it it is if there is clearly cherry picking, clearly spin, putting patients at risk cannot be justified.
It's irresponsible and demonstrates that the BMA has no care towards patients.
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@B_G_Gruff @DrNickDalmon @Keir_Starmer Oh I agree that there's a degree of cherry picking by the BMA. Including also using RPI instead of CPI. However, even looking from 2009 the numbers only change by a couple of %. The fact remains we're significantly down since our independent pay review body was interfered in.
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@B_G_Gruff @DrNickDalmon @Keir_Starmer It's preposterous to suggest that 28.9% was a single year. It was 3 years worth of pay increases. It's also obvious that initial corrections should represent larger % pay increases to rapidly reverse it. To suggest getting 28.9% every 3 years is ridiculous
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@DrDanGreaves @DrNickDalmon @Keir_Starmer Well the BMA isn't comparing to 2009, it's comparing to 2008. Just disingenuous cherry picking.
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@B_G_Gruff @DrNickDalmon @Keir_Starmer I agree. We worked 48hours in 2009 and work 48hrs now. I said they're directly comparable. It's you that has suggested we're working half as much.
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@DrPhilBanfield Was that for a decorator in training, did they have to run their work by a consultant decorator?
Did you check how much they were earning in 2008 & calculate what their pay should be now, if the economy had grown at the same rate as 2008?
If not, why not, surely exploitation?
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£26.40/ hr for a decorator, who has skills I don’t have. Very grateful for their help with something I’m not so good at. Here is the job, the person, the cost. Resident doctors are under-valued & over-worked for their expertise in saving lives. Political choice to afford or not.
Dr Shivam Sharma@DocShivSharma
There is no right time to strike. The winter crisis is now a perpetual crisis. The real threat to patient safety is chronic understaffing and underfunding of our healthcare system. If we want to fix the NHS and deliver the care patients deserve, we must fix retention of staff.
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@theipaper @wesstreeting Palestine Action are rightly proscribed.
But they have caused less actual harm to the public than the BMA
Time for leadership to protect the public from an activist captured organisation intent on disruption.
Make NHS doctor strikes illegal.
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The British Medical Association, which is preparing for a five-day strike by resident doctors in England, has been accused of offering its own clerical and administrative staff a pay rise well below inflation
Read more: trib.al/2dDoDbZ
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@world_of_pies @jimthegiant I didn't see it pushing back against any specific comment?
Just a divisive comment, the channel usually condemns.
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@B_G_Gruff @jimthegiant Its a perfectly reasonable push-back against the absurd right-wing narrative about London.
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If rightwingers are brave enough to step out the house
I would 100% recommend going to London in Christmas, its incredible
Sadiq Khan@SadiqKhan
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@B_G_Gruff Which medical school did you get your degree from?
You seem to think you know what FY1s do on the wards.
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Thanks for engaging.
Many don't realise how important FY1 doctors are.
They are often the first at an arrest, they deliver day to day medical care for patients & ensure they are discharged.
They are paid £18/hr. We're asking for them to receive £4/hr more to restore their pay
MrT@Justadulbloke
@DoctorsVoteUK Ok that's interesting.
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Today we published the 2025 UK Surgical Workforce Census Report.
Without urgent investment in theatres, staff and infrastructure, meeting waiting time targets will be near impossible.
Read more about the key findings and what we are calling for: rcseng.ac.uk/standards-and-…
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@ObaBabsOsibodu @wesstreeting There are British trained & qualified doctors without a job!
dauk.org/uncertain-futu…
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Simply staggering.
The UK needs to train more doctors.
Instead of using every possible avenue to address that, @wesstreeting is now openly (and proudly) treating the public’s health as a bargaining chip to punish doctors for taking lawful strike action.
How did we get here?
Department of Health and Social Care@DHSCgovuk
📱 Watch @WesStreeting react to your comments on the deal we've offered to resident doctors.
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@ObaBabsOsibodu @wesstreeting There are more doctors than ever, with more on the way
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