Abel

@Brittbeast33 @fivekidsnadog @its_The_Dr You made up a bunch of shit and misread everything I said and used arguments no one makes. Revisionist history, etc. that’s why I said it’s “telling” you have to create an alternative reality in order for you to make sense. That “reality” was made by conservative decades ago.

@Babelyawn @fivekidsnadog @its_The_Dr If personhood is determined by what current laws are on the books then it has relevence, no? Both refused a person their right to not be considered an object that can be disposed. That comparison must be inconvenient for you. Is everything "telling" for you? How very telling.

@Brittbeast33 @fivekidsnadog @its_The_Dr It’s not a person, it doesn’t have personhood. You care more about 2 inches of flesh than someone starving outside. And you only “care” because of what conservative think tanks deceive spew as propaganda several decades ago. Stop trying to control people you anti-American swine.

@Babelyawn @fivekidsnadog @its_The_Dr I'm just going by actions and words Abel, I mean it's fair game, since that's exactly what you have done the moment I mentioned "morals". Tit for tat, yes? I think people having their own autonomy is good. So killing the person in the womb is destroying their autonomy. We agree😉

@Brittbeast33 @fivekidsnadog @its_The_Dr Many ppl can say what they want, but the law did not declare it “not human” and that in fact was not “the lie” for a long time. That somehow has been proven true now. No one ever said they weren’t human. Have you read anything I said at all? I’m sure me you got it from a meme.

@Babelyawn @fivekidsnadog @its_The_Dr Who's inventing who? You've come up with a whole backstory on me because you disagree with my christianty. Actually MANY people disgree they are humans..that in fact was the lie for a long time. Slavery was once legal, did that mean they wern't people at some point?

@Brittbeast33 @fivekidsnadog @its_The_Dr Also when it comes to slavery, it’s was majority Christians like YOU, that supported that institution and used the Bible to defend it…

@Babelyawn @fivekidsnadog @its_The_Dr since slaves were considered none human and property, legally, I'm sure that means they wern't human at that time.

@Brittbeast33 @fivekidsnadog @its_The_Dr Here we go, swiping that victim card again. No one’s forcing anything on you. YOU NOT BEING ABLE TO CONTROL OTHER PEOPLES LIVES AND AUTONOMY is not forcing anything on you. Repeating the slogan does nothing because either means nothing, especially to you. You don’t.

@Babelyawn @fivekidsnadog @its_The_Dr Idk if you hate me, but from your profile you sure do seem to hate christianity and God. You are trying to force your religion on me by creating a society where murder is okay for some. I don't adher to your morals. Stop pushing them upon me. YOUR RELIGION HAS NO RIGHTS OVER ME.

@Brittbeast33 @fivekidsnadog @its_The_Dr You keep inventing a fake position cause you can’t argue against the real one. No one denies a fetus is biologically human, anyone who understands science knows DNA doesn’t determine legal personhood. ironic claiming you believe science while misrepresenting it to make a point.

@Babelyawn @fivekidsnadog @its_The_Dr This clearly is projection on your part. Your religion says they CAN'T be humans. They CAN'T have rights. Even though we can track the moment new dna is formed and life begins, it doesn't matter because that means you were wrong, and you can't be wrong.

@Brittbeast33 @fivekidsnadog @its_The_Dr Openly admitting that you just want to force your religious beliefs onto others. Look at the conditioned response your having. You’ve been made to believe that because I disagree with you, it means, I hate god, Christianity and YOU. I don’t. YOURE RELIGION HAS NO RIGHTS OVER ME.

@Babelyawn @fivekidsnadog @its_The_Dr Your religion of self is getting in the way of logic, science, and the constitution. Though I doubt you ACTUALLY care about those things. You just hate christianity and God. Your anger towards us is palpable.

@Brittbeast33 @fivekidsnadog @its_The_Dr Abortion was not a major evangelical issue until the late 70s when Falwell, Weyrich, and conservative strategists openly admitted they manufactured it to mobilize the religious right. Your argument only exists because that campaign succeeded.

@Brittbeast33 @fivekidsnadog @its_The_Dr 1/ No one ever thought a fetus wasn’t biologically human. That’s revisionist history. The debate has always been about legal personhood and bodily rights, not DNA or ultrasounds. Misrepresent what the science says but “we believe in science” 😭🤣🤣 yea sure 😂

@Babelyawn @fivekidsnadog @its_The_Dr Lol go back to the 60's and it WAS an argument. In fact Roe vs. Wade was all based on a lie and defied the constitution. I'm not catholic lol. They lied when they said it wasn't even a human. We have ultrasounds now. We have dna checks now. They can't lie anymore.

@Brittbeast33 @fivekidsnadog @its_The_Dr 2/ The same ridiculousd hyperbolic, appeals to emotion you’re spewing. Claiming you support “science” and the “constitution” are just more useless appeals you don’t care about. You don’t actually believe anything, you just do what your told and are trying to force that others.

@Babelyawn @fivekidsnadog @its_The_Dr Funny you think I'm relying on "religion." When science and the constitution (which was founded on the bible) cover that well on their own. And I fight for the right to life. Once again, you ignore probable cause, because that would be common sense and you must create hyperbole.

@fivekidsnadog @darkwinggirl1 @its_The_Dr You generally can’t, but ok. At that point it’s hardly as big as a thumb. You can make out general shape of limbs, head etc… but that’s good for you though. Happy that YOU CHOOSE THAT. The main issue here and the most important. You have NO RIGHT TO FORCE OTHERS TO CHOOSE THAT.

@Babelyawn @darkwinggirl1 @its_The_Dr I saw my son at 12 weeks. His profile was so distinct, I could tell he had the same nose as his brother. He had his arm up alongside his head, sleeping just the way he did as a newborn. They were able to tell me it was a boy.

@fivekidsnadog @Brittbeast33 @its_The_Dr Your religion doesn’t decide who counts as a person. That’s why miscarriage isn’t homicide & states don’t charge women as murderers. If every fetus were a full person, you’d support investigating every miscarriage. You don’t, cause reality doesn’t match the slogan you’ve been fed

@Babelyawn @Brittbeast33 @its_The_Dr 100% of lives end in death, but we still consider murder to be immoral and illegal.

@Brittbeast33 @its_The_Dr You’re not fighting for any human rights, you’re restricting them. You don’t care about people once they’re born. You don’t care about life. All you care about is your religion and imposing your ridiculous unfounded beliefs on others. It’s why you have to misrepresent everything.

@Babelyawn @its_The_Dr So we should just allow murder of any kind because that's moralizing, right? I mean, "thou shall not murder" is a biblical western value that was founded by a moral people. BTW not only is it human rights I am fighting for, but science and the constitution.

@Brittbeast33 @its_The_Dr Thats an egregious mischaraterization of what I said which is typical coming from you people. It’s not murder just because you say it is. YOU PEOPLE HAVE TO USE CHARGED LAMGUAGE IN ORDER TO PLAY INTO PEOPLE SYMPATHIES. You don’t actually believe it’s murder, it’s just a slogan.

@Brittbeast33 @its_The_Dr The point is your beliefs don’t supersede another’s. This inherent American principle is why the conservative demagogues that rule over your religious institutions and control what you think have to use hyperbolic, charged, highly moralized language.

@Babelyawn @its_The_Dr Someone on life support is dying, someone in utero is growing, when did one not become a human? You ignored what I said about reasonable doubt. Fetus is literally a stage in human life. Fetus is latin for "offspring" "bringing forth young". It's a stage of development.

@Brittbeast33 @its_The_Dr How are they dying if they are being kept alive? Plenty of ppl wake up from comas stop ignoring reality just to fuel your delusions. Stop being dense. “Reasonable doubt” so you don’t actually believe it’s murder then. If you did you’d lock up anyone thought to drink, smoke, etc.

@DingusKingus @hayasaka_aryan @nyaraVT You’re talking about a media personality that’s be on the internet for over a decade and are comparing that to randoms spewing shit out and getting rewarded for it. For doing nothing more than being petty despicable people. Nice comparison retard.

@hayasaka_aryan @nyaraVT "There's no left wing grift!" I know a guy on discord, dyed in the wool tankie, hates Trump, constantly glazing Che Guevara, who wouldn't drive two hours to join the LA ICE protests. "No left wing grift"

There is no “left-wing grift” There is no left-wing equivalent to: > being racist and raising $200k > saying “God :)” in a shitty essay and getting state recognition > pretending to be a detransitioner to sell anti-trans books > exploiting the ignorance of uneducated people