One of the weird things about things like the NHS is that if you try to get any details about this profoundly important immigration that they want to celebrate, you enter a world of incredible vagueness where nobody has any interest in clarifying things. Same with London Transport, but if you really dig on that you discover that the small amount of recruitment there was was at the request of the West Indies to help them manage social unrest caused by unemployment. One of the interesting things about the whole topic is you have ministers, charities, museums, journalists and so on talking about Windrush having been invited to rebuild etc... when you look, there is next to no evidence of that, lots of evidence of the opposite being the case... and then that internal home office document on the history of the windrush scandal was forced to be released, where it calls the statements of ministers, charities, museums, journalists etc for decades a myth. Have you ever looked at the numbers of nurses recruited from the Caribbean that were so crucial to the NHS? Even the numbers they claim, if it's like London Transport, most will have passively floated in because they were already here rather than having been recruited in the Caribbean.
@BazYates50@BrownSpiderCLE Bain jr ,Reese, Diwns,and Delane are top 5 star prospects for the NFL. Trade down if you don't want defense and get the most value out of each draft pick
Do the figures tell a different story? The Working Party on the Employment of Surplus Colonial Labour 1948 and the Royal Commission on Population 1949 both came to the conclusion the mass immigration from the Commonwealth would be bad news. I've never seen any analysis showing that they were wrong and non-English speaking Punjabi farmers was some important contribution to postwar recovery. What figures are you talking about?
@ThreeJacques@RestoreBritain_ I think you are reading too much into what the elites thought at the time, Britain was traditionally particularly obsessed with class and race it wasn’t abnormal for politicians to say stuff like that. The figures tell a different story
The reason they ended up in public transport was the existence of a number of large publicly owned parts of it that didn't operate a colour bar or discriminate at a time when lots did, hence transport was a magnet for them. Such was the labour shortage that many regional bus companies famously refused to employ them into the 60s before such discrimination was criminalised when we copied American race relations policy. We are talking about a period when the state policy was full employment, hence the state was subsidising employment. That's how you get Lord Salisbury in the 50s complaining that the Caribbean were exporting its unemployment.
@LEADDAWG77@BrownSpiderCLE I would say I’m the same but last years draft was also stacked defensively, could be the same next year, I think defensive prospects go higher because they are easier to get acclimated to a scheme and the intangibles are more important, ie. They are given more time to develop
@BazYates50@BrownSpiderCLE I am a defensive type of fan but this is a defensive top of the draft and if you don't want defense then you trade down for extra higher future draft picks and getting the most value out of each draft pick.
@BazYates50 Fannin was arguably the ONLY weapon at BG. He was a Power 5 talent playing at BG.
Hence Sadiq is projected 1st rd was Fannin was projected around where he went.
@LEADDAWG77@BrownSpiderCLE I think we get a skewed vision being browns fans😭 I’d favour Tate and and a left tackle being taken in the first and then getting a nickel at 39, I don’t think we have the luxury of investing a first in another tight end
@ThreeJacques@RestoreBritain_ Indians actually filled a whole in construction jobs, public transportation and also healthcare. Our railways, housing, and also industry buildings were in tatters. I don’t know why you keep denying the existence of their roles in rebuilding?
Well, if you take Indians, they were mostly non-English speaking rural peasants who went into declining, low margin industries displacing the white workforce... rubber, textiles etc... This bought those industries a handful more years before they collapsed. It's like saying Britain's economy would collapse without Afghan Deliveroo drivers and they have played a critical role in Britain's post-financial crisis economic recovery... I mean... have they? And if they have, is that a good thing?
@LEADDAWG77@BrownSpiderCLE That’s rlly unrealistic, Reese is gone by 6, fano is gone by 25, terell is a first rounder, Williams won’t fall to 107 and lew will go second or third round
@BazYates50@BrownSpiderCLE You would need to game plan covering a corner on a tightend but couldn't tackle them (linebackers and safeties aren't fast enough). Coach uses 12 personal often.....we get anything on the outside, forget it
@ThreeJacques@RestoreBritain_ You’re right they preferred European workers due to the racist attitudes of the day and workers were sent to boost demand in the colonies however you cannot deny the labour shortage and despite attitudes immigration from the carribean and India helped those shortages
Well, historically it is as I am telling you. Commonwealth immigration was explicitly not wanted and thought to be a burden rather than a help. Polish immigration was encouraged and adds up to close to your total. The problem after the war was much more that we had lost our foreign investments and foreign markets were even more broken than we were, hence sending hundreds of thousands of skilled workers to Australia and Canada after the war to stimulate them and get demand going.