Bean !

@Zia_NGBB Lo son, son y se ven, pero para ellos siempre serán "mestizos" aunque les expliques qué es el sistema de castas. Pero casualmente un blanco nunca se llamaría a sí mismo mestizo, o en su defecto, diría que es un mestizo blanco; siempre mestizo nunca nativo americano, uh

I remember when my dad(hes amerindian) visited mexico, I forgot which part and I asked him what were the people like? and he said "son puros indios"(they are a bunch of indians) No one genuinely thinks the population is a multi-racial country, we know its a native majority

@Brent_Atlas700 @nicholasluvss No, it's a very specific appearance, and it's usually said about people with ties to Mexico (like Americans) who pretend they don't have Mexican ancestry, even though it's known they do. It's not something you can deny, that is literally the situation that occurs.

@Bean834941 @nicholasluvss You can look clearly mesoamerican and not be of mesoamerican ancestry

Saying Mexican isn’t a ethnicity or connected to blood and under the same breath saying “tienes el nopalote en la frente”🌵 Is contradicting btw

@Brent_Atlas700 @nicholasluvss It literal does, I repeat, the phrase refers to people who are clearly of Mesoamerican ancestry, which is undeniable.

@Bean834941 @nicholasluvss You can look full Black African or Native and have no Black or Native genes and DNA at all. Physical appearances don’t reflect ancestral origins.

@Brent_Atlas700 @nicholasluvss It also doesn't mean that those genes will always be expressed; you can have them and not look like them. But the phrase in the post speaks directly of looking like them, that you literally have that phenotype, and we can know that you have ancestry from here

@Brent_Atlas700 @nicholasluvss No, literally no, we're not saying you're not mixed race or that you don't have parents of different races, but if you have that appearance it's UNDENIABLE and a fact that you inherited some genes, and believe me, in Mesoamerica is a very specific phenotype

@Brent_Atlas700 @nicholasluvss NOOO, you can SEE when someone comes from Black, Native American, etc. and we know perfectly well how our native people from Mesoamerica look, it literally means you have Native American (Mesoamerican) ROOTS

@Bean834941 @nicholasluvss Just because someone has a Native MesoAmerican appearance that doesn’t mean they have Native roots.

@nicholasluvss Your understanding is truly nonexistent, LOL. Having Mexican roots isn't about race or anything like that; it simply means having ancestors of Mexican nationality and culture.

@Bean834941 What “roots” if Mexican is just a nationality ?? You see how you all don’t know how to make up your mind wether if Mexican is merely a nationality or more than that

@nicholasluvss Because it doesn't apply, damn it, get it? XD Besides, the phrase doesn't say that makes you Mexican, it says that you can't deny you have Mexican ROOTS, and it doesn't apply to all Mexicans either. Read all again.

@Bean834941 That is the point !!!!!!! Thats what mexicans say to us

@Brent_Atlas700 @nicholasluvss When someone tells you that you have a nopal face, it doesn't necessarily mean that it's obvious you're Mexican (nationality), but rather that it's obvious you have Native Mesoamerican Mexican roots and it's ridiculous that you're the one denying it above all else.

@Brent_Atlas700 @nicholasluvss Mexicans have nothing against you saying you have Mexican roots, unless you start spouting nonsense like being one-quarter Mexican. What they do have against is you pretending to be more Mexican than you are living the life of an: American, Chinese, Canadian, etc.

@nicholasluvss You're very stubborn. Being Mexican isn't about blood, and having a certain blood or race isn't a requirement to be Mexican, but there IS a race and certain ethnicities INHERENT to Mexico. The fact that you don't understand that because you're a pocho, it's different.

@Bean834941 Nopal refers to physical characteristics that are being assumed to be paired with that nationality Even tho many claim it’s only a nationality independent and untethered to race or any type of genetics So sayin those two things simultaneously is indeed contradictory

@sovaywednesday @aortlah0212 (Que el sistema de castas es una pendejada y es una doble pendejada que nos identifiquemos con un sistema racista)

@sovaywednesday @aortlah0212 ??? Mestizo no es una raza ni una etnia, esos son por ejemplo los indígenas y sus diferentes grupos étnicos. Mestizo es una casta, proveniente del sistema de castas.

Creo que esta idea viene de los mexicoamericanos porque la mayoría de ellos son mestizos, así como la mayoría de la población de México es mestiza. Pero no, no todos los mexicanos son mestizos; también hay mexicanos de otras etnias, como levantinos, asiáticos, africanos y demás.

@nicholasluvss It's relevant, your point ignores the purpose of the phrase you're complaining about.

@Bean834941 This is quite Irrelavent to my point

@xxmucane @SosPotax @astrofemina No, the op was saying that no matter what it is or isn't in the United States, it's something of ours and you can't impose another definition on us.

@Bean834941 @SosPotax @astrofemina was the op not talking about how it's an ethnicity in the US thats all I refer to yea our culture is way different from yours 😭

This might sound too woke but forcing American made definitions of culture and ethnicity into other cultures even though the people of said culture is telling you it’s wrong it’s a form of colonialism.

@nicholasluvss Clearly, implying that anyone born in Mexico is Mexican. You can find someone with blue eyes who is Mexican and a Mayan that is Mexican, but not someone who is Mayan being German. Including more ethnicities and races doesn't mean that the base ser the Native American

@Bean834941 Mexican according to them is nothing more than a nationality

@xxmucane @SosPotax @astrofemina We don't wanna know YOUR way 'cause it's OUR culture (not even ethnicities, you introduced the ethnicities but we could talk about the topic just in terms of culture)

@SosPotax @astrofemina you DONT know how the US works the same way I dont know how LATAM works if I dont live there and thats perfectly fine I think its annoying asf when we get upset yall dont consider us real Latinos bc we aren't but you need to also understand Latino immigrants do call themselves it