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This interview by @BenjaminABoyce with Nick Land is worth listening to: youtube.com/watch?v=a3tWWz…. I have been wondering about Land's take on MAGA/"Far-Right" politics. I started reading Land a few weeks ago. I will point first the valuable points, and then some critical points.
Land draws a clear contrast between the Left's consolidated power and the Right's "tricotomy" or division into three interdependent factions.
The Left is quasi-religious, almost a "counter-religion" of true believers committed to a holy war against "white Christian capitalistic patriarchy."
The Right, however, consists of three factions that were able to coalesce around Trump's MAGA without giving MAGA the ideological coherence of the Left.
These three factions are 1) technocommercialists or capitalist innovators like Elon Musk who believe in smaller government, Doge, 2) HBD race realists, NRx, which themselves don't seem that united but include ethno-nationalists, including Groypers, and 3) "theonomists" or Christian conservatives, and some Christian nationalists.
He is aware of the cross-overs between these factions. Sometimes Land may give impression that the NRx, for example, could be included in the first faction, rather than the second, since the NRx accepts core DOGE principles, markets, Constitution; and, conversely, some small government libertarians accept, if implicitly or without voicing it, NRx ideas.
On the other hand, there are deep divisions between the NRx/Musk/DOGE combined and ethnonationalists, as witnessed in the intense H-1B visa debates over immigration (Musk capitalists versus ethnonationalists).
Then there is the now huge division between pro-Israel MAGA/NRx and the "antisemitism" associated with the Groypers and ethnonationalists.
Land @xenocosmography says that these factions must find common ground and areas for "respectful conversation" ------- otherwise the Right risks getting annihilated by the Left. I agree we can't lose sight of our common enemy. Trump's reelection was one of my happiest political days.
Points of contention:
1. Trump's MAGA is sustained primarily by *mainstream* conservatives, Christian or Evangelical conservatives, libertarians, and tax-cut types. The HBD/race realists and ethnonationalists are not only a small faction in American politics overall, but do not constitute a cohesive group; many ethnonationalists are currently anti-MAGA, and many HBD/race realists strongly disagree with ethnonationalists (Charles Murray, Cofnas).
2. Some HBD race realists like Bo Winegard have been predominantly critical of Trump for his "tribalism". Winegard was a Leftist not long ago. He accepts multiracialism but wants "intellectuals" like him (Cofnas's key argument) to be consulted about IQ findings so they can push for a high IQ race mixed elite ruling over a mass of low IQ whites and nonwhites. Hanania is a race realist who loves multiracialism and immigration and prefers the Dems.
3. Now, while many HBD race realists embrace Trump, civic nationalism, and support Israel -- official MAGA rejects race realism, knowing full well it would mean the end of a big-umbrella multiracial Republican party.
4. Meanwhile, ethnonationalists/Groypers (Nick Fuentes' America First crowd) push white identity politics, isolationism, and "remigration". HBD supporters like Charles Murray, Winegard, and Cofnas reject ethnonationalism. On top of this, many ethnonationalists (Greg Johnson and the CC group) hate or dislike the Groypers.
5. The divide between some of these factions is now very deep and irreconcilable, filled with hatred. The pro-Israel/Jewish faction despises the Groypers; and not just the Fuentes version but anyone who is critical of Israel or of Jews, such as Tucker. Think of Mark Levine. In fact, individuals like James Lindsay are increasingly sounding like Dems in their relentless attacks on the "Woke Right".
6. Many businesses support the Dems, and those that support MAGA support mass immigration and oppose ethnonationalism/Groypers. It was Land, and others he has written favorably about, like Deleuze, that prompted me to reflect more about the strong elective affinity between capitalist decoding/excess and creation of multiracial immigrant megacities.
Therefore, I don't see these factions coming together, though I do see in the next election a unified, yet mainstream, MAGA taking on the Dems again, but the trends are towards increasing tribalism within the Right, and increasing far left reactions. The only option is to push for right wing acceleration within MAGA and outside it for a new generation.
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