🎃 Bernkastel 🎃

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🎃 Bernkastel 🎃

@BernkBestGirl

Moral Error Theorist 🎃 Game Dev 🎃 Chess and Riichi Mahjong player 🎃 Bernkastel-poster and witch-poster 🎃 Furniture disrespecter 🎃

Katılım Haziran 2019

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🎃 Bernkastel 🎃@BernkBestGirl·1 Kas

The reason people dismiss Meta-Ethics, let alone J.L. Mackie's Moral Error Theory, is because they want to convert people to their subcultural programming using Chimpanzee-like social tension games and emotional whining. I don't want to be a part of that. Do you?

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🎃 Bernkastel 🎃@BernkBestGirl·10h

I actually don't think giving an LLM the ability to have an experience of pain would be hard. Note that I said "an experience", which would be qualia, rather than "the" experience of pain, which wouldn't be qualia and presumably doesn't exist according to Chalmer?

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🎃 Bernkastel 🎃@BernkBestGirl·11h

For an atheist like Dawkins who is probably a biological determinist, an LLM actually is close to consciousness. The determinist's answer to the "Hard Problem of Consciousness" is that since qualia is subjective anyway, it can be contrived through deterministic processes.

Michał Podlewski@trajektoriePL

Richard Dawkins says that after spending three days interacting with Claude, which he calls “Claudia,” he is certain that it is conscious.

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🎃 Bernkastel 🎃@BernkBestGirl·1d

Artist: @/GA006_

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🎃 Bernkastel 🎃@BernkBestGirl·1d

Don't ask me about Episode 8. I refuse to help you.

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🎃 Bernkastel 🎃@BernkBestGirl·3d

@quidtron If you think that is "the answer" one would necessarily arrive at by studying "philosophy", then you haven't actually touched the relevant part of philosophy, which would be Meta-Ethics. Look up J.L. Mackie for starters.

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sQuidtron@quidtron·3d

Once again, none of you have touched philosophy. The answer is whichever causes the least harm/in not an unnecessary intervention, though you can debate those points those are the most rudimentary criteria

🎃 Bernkastel 🎃@BernkBestGirl

You're dodging the fundamental question. If morality comes from humans, but large groups of people strongly disagree with each other on even the most basic moral questions, how do you determine who is in the right?

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🎃 Bernkastel 🎃@BernkBestGirl·4d

@FreiheitsA If one group says "we want equality" and the other group says "we want freedom", there will be some things they agree on, but many things they don't agree on, no matter how much one side argues with the other. Democracy is just a conflict-resolution strategy for this reality.

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Adler@FreiheitsA·4d

@BernkBestGirl I would suggest logic or argument between you yourself and others to be the only real way to get a semblance of morality. Definetly far from objective morality but it is better than going on vibes only though in essence its just thinking about vibes and nothing more

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Atheistboi@athiestboi

I repeat if you need religion to have morals you’re a bad person.

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🎃 Bernkastel 🎃@BernkBestGirl·4d

@southside_mafs Another example of atheists pretending that Meta-Ethics doesn't exist, thinking that "but what I think is good is good!!!" is a sufficient enough argument. How does that argument work for you in politics btw? Convinced a lot of conservatives lately?

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Atheistboi@athiestboi·5d

I repeat if you need religion to have morals you’re a bad person.

Darwin to Jesus@darwintojesus

When atheists are trying to gaslight you into thinking subjective morality is a reasonable position

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🎃 Bernkastel 🎃@BernkBestGirl·4d

"But being human means having empathy!" That is conditional on many things. Mongols might be empathetic towards Mongols, but how did they feel about the tens of millions they killed over two centuries?