BirdmanMarco

@Ohh_Schmidty15 @ChigweSibanyama @Nickthos Big part of why Jokic got it as a 6 seed was cuz of the injuries to Murray and Gordon. And Westbrook won it cuz he was the first player to avg a triple double in 50 years. Plus the added narrative of KD leaving. Over 80% of mvps were on a top 2 seed. So yes. They were outliers

@ChigweSibanyama @BirdmanMarco @Nickthos He was also a 6th seed if I remember correctly

Love watching people list off everything Jokic did this season, acknowledging leading in rebounds and assists (which is insane) while scoring 27.7 per game, then just say, “well, SGA has a nice jumper, give it to him.” He isn’t even the scoring leader. What are we doing here?

@RedGiant17 @Nickthos Nuggets this season w/o Jokic 11-6 Thunder this season w/o Shai 8-6 If Denver is a play in team w/o Jokic that means he added 9 wins to Denver. If okc is a 50 win team w/o Shai that means he added 14

@BirdmanMarco @Nickthos You're right, but that actually makes the case the other way. Why didn't Giannis get MVP in 23 because he led the league in wins? Because context does matter. The Nuggets without Jokic are a play in team at best. Thunder without SGA are still a 50 win team.

@RedGiant17 @Nickthos Embiid even won more games then Jokic in 23 lmao. So it’s a moot point. But if we rely on PRA as the only thing to compare players then Harden and Westbrook were way better than Steph was. See how that works? You’re just ignoring so much context. Actually watch the games

@BirdmanMarco @Nickthos Which was my original point. If leading the league in wins is the bar, why is it different now than in '23? PRA is the easiest way to compare players. How can you say a player is the best in the league if he isn't the best at anything they measure?

@RedGiant17 @Nickthos He only led the league in WINS. You know the actual most valuable part of the game. It’s clear you just refuse to accept Shai is an all time player. Your obsession with PRA while ignoring everything else is just sad

@BirdmanMarco @Nickthos SGA didn't lead the league in a single major stat this year. Jokic is the first player in league history to lead both Rebounds and Assists in the same season. The argument for SGA is a really good season, because others were statistically better. Joker was literally historic

@RedGiant17 @Nickthos Yes lmao. He’s only got nearly 100 more pounds on Shai, half a foot taller and plays closer to the bucket. Centers have always been more efficient than guards.

@BirdmanMarco @Nickthos Jokic had a better FG% THIS year. Because he plays guard it means more?

@RedGiant17 @Nickthos When there’s 2 players playing at an all time level like we have with Jokic and Shai you bet your ass a 10 game advantage gives Shai an advantage

@RedGiant17 @Nickthos Saying his season is just “really good” is just being ignorant to the facts

@RedGiant17 @Nickthos 1. I agree Jokic got shafted in 2023 2. Notice in 2024 when okc only had a 1 game advantage Jokic still won it. But last year when there’s a 18 game difference and this year a 10 game difference SGA gets it. Winning matters

@BirdmanMarco @Nickthos Remember in 2023 when the Nuggets were the #1 seed in the West, and Philly was #3 in the East and everyone gave MVP to Embiid? Why is it different for SGA this year?

@sleepy_waits @Nickthos When did I say always? Just the history of the award usually goes to the player with the better record. And I’ve also said “best player on best team” sometimes the “best record” isn’t the best team. Cavs last year wasn’t the best team in the East just cuz they had the best record

@BirdmanMarco @Nickthos Just not to prove your point? Which was “mvp was always literally best player on best team”.

@sleepy_waits @Nickthos I can google too

@BirdmanMarco @Nickthos

@sleepy_waits @Nickthos Ahhh so most of the time.

@sleepy_waits @Nickthos Lmao

@BirdmanMarco @Nickthos You should open with LeBron fanboying, so I know from the get go there’s no point discussing with you.

@Ohh_Schmidty15 @Nickthos And when the original post dumbs it down to “he’s got a nice jumper” is just being ignorant. Shai is having an all time year. Winning at an all time rate.

@Ohh_Schmidty15 @Nickthos I do agree he got shafted the year Embiid won it. But just cuz a few outlier years doesn’t change the history of the award. Sometimes a narrative and circumstances can overtake the overall record. But that’s not how it is when SGA is playing at this level and winning so much

@sleepy_waits @Nickthos Cuz Denver fans are still crying about losing it last year. Still having 10 more wins this season is quite significant. And def not making up numbers.

@BirdmanMarco @Nickthos Also, why tf you are making up some numbers by adding last 2 seasons XDDD?

@sleepy_waits @Nickthos Quite literally the history of the award has been best player on the best team Cuz guess what? Winning is the most important part of the game. If it was best player Lebron would have 10+, plus when he still wins that much despite so many injuries I’d say he’s pretty damn valuable

@BirdmanMarco @Nickthos Now read slowly your own second sentence and pay steep to “and OKC” part. If you want mvp to be given to “best player in best team”, then rename award.

@coachpete327 @Nickthos Well you’re actually dumb so….

@BirdmanMarco @Nickthos Not nearly the same as Denver. Just stop. You sound dumb

@coachpete327 @Thisisokla30921 @Nickthos It’s an actual fact. Way to be shitty and stupid

@Thisisokla30921 @BirdmanMarco @Nickthos You’re actually retarded if you think that

@coachpete327 @Nickthos Lmao like okc didn’t have any injuries. Legit had more than Denver

@BirdmanMarco @Nickthos “Win more games” As if they didn’t have a clusterfuck of injuries all year and still only won 10 fewer. Context matters