Blake Voiles

@Datphillykyd @FantasyF_Chris BBM as a whole is a lottery. So is The Puppy. I think leaving BBM the same or making minimal changes is fine. But I think there is opp for variance in structure for smaller buy in tournies where missing finals after 2-3 yrs for smaller volume players pushes them out.

Im looking for balance between a solid chance to get to week 17 and yet I want to also have a decent shot at winning if I get there....now BBM....at 539 in the finals thats a lot of teams to beat...when you start getting to 1500 man finals...feels more lottery vs feeling like a sweat

Cool, then dont. Want better player retention, get more players to the finals. Also, show me a 1500 field DFS slate with 100k up top and a $5 entry fee, I'll wait.

Gotta love best ball twitter. Only place where people will act like the sky is falling when UD lays off a bunch of draft games support while simultaneously complaining about inquired changes to said draft games.

At what point do we stop coddling the grown man who has all the resources and access in the world to not put other lives at risk? I hope he gets help and gets better. That doesnt excuse his terrible actions. Especially when it has happened more than once.

@FantasyF_Chris @Datphillykyd Tournamemts arent for min cashing. Majority of volume players are not playing to min cashing.

@BlakeVoiles @Datphillykyd I play for min cash with upside. I’m confident my strategies will payoff and I’ll have a disproportionate finals teams but want that min cash.

@JayJammerff No one wants to play for small prize pools.

@BlakeVoiles Player retention would be best if they push smaller tournaments that don’t include 3 rounds of qualifying for the final. Your last point is evidence for this - that prize pool isn’t just appearing out of thin air

@FantasyF_Chris @Datphillykyd No one is playing these tournies for a min cash. Getting bounced prior to week 17 feels even worse. People play for the week 17 sweat.

@BlakeVoiles @Datphillykyd The time to draft 150 teams to get $50 in finals if you are the 1,500th best that week is going to feel like shit. I like finals where I make the contest back if I make finals.

Was playing my best round of golf ever today. Had a birdie and 2 pars through 12 and was one pace to break 100 for the first time. Had to leave early bc my partner was locked out of the house. 🙃

@Chartsy1 There are pros and cons to it for bigger bank rollers.

@BlakeVoiles Bankrollers would want a bigger final to maximize return. What you said doesn’t make sense

Honestly, give me some contests with bigger finals. The sweat is what drives retention and interest. Of course bankrollers that max enter want smaller finals. Not everything needs catered to them even though they can cry the loudest sometimes.

@Ihartitz One of mine is 3rd/4th and short and the team runs a draw/off-tackle run out of shotgun with the receiving back. This was the Frank Reich special and it used to drive me bonkers.

Play-action bullshit on 4th and goal from the 1 that gets completely blanketed gotta be up there with the worst 30 seconds in sports. Just a complete fuck you from start to finish.

@westcoastwashed Which is fine. I think variance in structure is important. There isnt much of that right now either. The loudest people against variance in structure in field size are always (for the most part) the biggest bag holders though.

@BlakeVoiles Not a big bankroller by any means but I prefer smaller finals personally. Not a big deal though. They offer plenty of contests that have structures I prefer

@mike_martel1 We can look at dfs slate sizes and see there isnt going to be much difference in scores needed to ship a 500 field vs a 1500 field. Max entry players arent playing for min week 17 cashing. They max to increase likelihood of week 17 representation. This helps them too.

@BlakeVoiles Sure no one’s playing for the min payout but people who max enter, which you need to fill the tournament, like to lock in their buy in for making a final. And we just disagree on there being not much of a difference between 500 and 1500

@mike_martel1 It really isnt. Youre not making anything significant unless you hit a top 10/15 outcome regardless of the difference in field sizes. It is the whole reason week 17 stacking is a prominent strat. And 500 to 1500 will barely change high end scoring outcomes/requirements to hit.

@BlakeVoiles Massive difference between 500 and 1500. Would say the best case for this structure is teams will be more unique. I’d probably pass on this structure though

@mike_martel1 No one plays for a week 17 min payout anyways so this is kind of irrelevant

@BlakeVoiles Would also add that the min payout for reaching the final would be significantly less

@MiltonW72042399 Yep, same lol. Why anyone is against more potential week 17 dart throws makes no sense to me. Just turns the equity away from players who max enter every tourney in the most tiniest/insignificant way and they cant handle that thought.

@BlakeVoiles yea I have no problem with a 1500 final . Just more teams of mine that will get in lol

@mike_martel1 Not really much difference between a 500 to a 1500 field size. Especially bc no one plays to min cash week 17. Additionally, we all play for getting teams to week 17. Idky people are so against a tournament increasing those odds. Especially for a lower dollar entry tourney.

@BlakeVoiles Making it through 16 weeks to have to compete with a field of 1500 sounds pretty crazy imo

@Datphillykyd Only large bankroll players/sharps would be hitting a 1500 field dfs slate with that buy-in, which is the point of mentioning the $5 entry. People playing $5 tournies are not the same as people playing high dollar small field. Of course big bankrollers want smaller fields.

It probably take 100-150 entries to get to the finals from a probability view point...seems like it kind of is equivalent to a 1500 DFS tourney.... total entry equity to get there ends up at $500-750 which could be a DFS tourney with 100k up top I dont know the payout numbers in a 1500 field tourney but feels like the expectation should be to get close to all entry fees from back for a finals appearance

@he4rtgoId Tried it when I was younger and never again. Always some kind of milk.

Had my protein shake with water for the first time ever… how do you guys do this it’s disgusting

Finding out Piada removed calamari from their menu has ruined my day.