TheLegend
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TheLegend
@BullMaker6789
Make Money from Market

Hey #Sorare Community, why we die? As @andrewmlaird recently said on the podcast: The less money you make, the more you ask yourself – is this still fun? I thought about my answer a bit: Hell No. First, @Sorare completely killed the trust, then the financial motivation and now the fun. I think I can explain why I think its Sorares fault: 1. UI & User Experience is Horrible ➡️With every change, the UI and gameplay become more complicated, cluttered with annoying adjustments. The platform is slow and feels like some unfinished project. 1 step forward followed by 2 steps back. ➡️Ive been playing for almost 4 years and often get lost in the interface – how are new managers supposed to find their way in? ➡️No transparency regarding rewards, essence, or prices. You have to dig and hope to find what you search, and this every few months from start. ➡️ @SorareData was the best thing in Sorare. I miss watching live games while tracking scores and rankings live on the SD App. Years ago i already said, without SD I think wouldnt play Sorare. And tbh i dont think Sorare will come anywhere close to SD, especially theyve known since February that SD will be gone in June and now theyre start implementing some features? They changing their Site every few months because they now its trash, and they didnt even had to provide all the Data SD did. To be clear, SD did the work, and they did an excellent job. Is Sorare unable to simply copy SD now? If so, why not buying SD or hiring their employees to implement it or find another Solution? Big Loose for all. 2. Market Credits, Essence & Broken Game Design ➡️Ban Market credits, they offer no real long-term value – not to Players, not to Sorare. We win some Market Credits and Sorare pushing us to buy some cards for the next 14 days? This is another Bullshit. In addition it temporarily drive Auctions and Insta prices up, only to crash them weeks later. It frustrates managers, those who have paid the full price even more! Its a negative spiral downwards for the Market. Maybe it boosts the turnovers for new fundings? I dont get it. ➡️Constant changes at the expense of managers make planning nearly impossible. Quite the opposite, Strategy and planings will be punished. For example Players wanted to craft their T1/Star Card next Season, or spend some Market Credits for Inseason Cards, but not with Sorare. Now your Credits gone and you will have to gamble your Essence and pray for a good Card. 🤡 They often promise something, to make it drastically worse a few month later. Just another example and I have dozens like this: They announce last year essence rewards will be reduced drastically because there isnt enough essence, 1 Day later they launch some French Lille cards promo: Buy Cards get extra essence. Wtf u doing? 🤣 Im convinced most of their shitstorms are Sorares own fault. ➡️Divisions? Failed. Reward structure and relagation for DNPs sucked anyway so pl, no problem. ➡️One of the biggest mistakes: Sacrifice Classic for Inseason. The two-class system doesnt work neither, not only because almost all Players are classic Players. Ive tracked players and values over the years, almost nobody had the chance to come close to winning back this losses with rewards. How is that sustainable if barely someone winning? I dont understand how this supposed to go in a positive direction with such drastic changes and negative Customers? ➡️Next season, most Classic competitions will be removed. Me and most of the Managers i know build Classic Teams for BL LaLiga PL Champ Challenger etc. And now theyre just gone? Theyre pitching “Arena” as a replacement – but we all know, it isnt. Unless they offer free entries every gameweek, very unlikely because its a net zero game for them. For the most Managers a Big L. I would say only a few, maybe 2/10 Managers will win and smash Arenas longterm. While the rest loose their essence and stop playing, unless they are complete idiots. ➡️Now, the biggest customers/fans/investors from SR and Unique will be sacrificed with the new Update. Seriously, they put one of the biggest believers against them? @PranksyPlays, who is in the game with over 2 million €, his card prices and rewards have probably been halved? Just like that. Another Big L ➡️Some more changes just in Season 24/25: Mid-season essence cuts, division changes, Classic cards reduced in SR and Unique from 2 to 1, MLS streak rule changed (no Classic card allowed initially – I sold my Philadelphia collection due to horrible Classic rewards – weeks later they allow 1 Classic card again. Why should 25/26 get better? 3. Manipulation & Lack of Transparency ➡️No Card Entry: In France and the UK, players can enter Unique, SR, and Rare Inseason and Classic competitions for free via ghost leaderboards – without ever owning a card. Discord discussions got deleted and people got banned. I saw managers who made €15,000+ in rewards over months without spending a dollar. I really dont know how many Players there are – could be hundreds or thousands draining the system. Sorares unofficial explanation: Without this, they would have had to pause operations in the UK and France, so they pay alot of Inseason Eth rewards, Cards and cash to NCE Players. Then fkin pause operating in UK and FR or find another solution. For me mental decisions and just unacceptable. Letting hundreds or thousands play for free while others spend thousands for just one Rare lineup. I officially cant play on Stake.com from Germany, but if I want to, I turn some vpn on and play. 😅 ➡️Bonus programs for new accounts: were massively exploited over the years – Managers had to report Scams and no real checks → When bloodsuckers take money out of the market —> also bad for everyone. ➡️Instabuy mechanic drives secondary market prices down. I also saw some InstaBuys below the floor price. There should never be a battle between first and second market where Insta and Auctions goes for +50% than our Insesason Card Rewards. Yes, it should be equal and then its a positive benefit for the managers and the platform in the long term. ➡️Promos: So many specials and promos partly without communication – its pure chaos. Ive seen managers buying cards, days later Sorare drops some Special Cards and they cant play the Specials and get angry. Some GW you can late swap some not, always sometimes this sometimes that, just stop fkin moving the goal posts. 4. Alarming Economic Reality & Financial imbalance (Just a few alarming figures I had to read, even if multiple sources, including media, insiders and @lesaurores report similar financial numbers, we still have to regard these numbers as assumptions and estimates for now but cant be ignored) benjamincharles.substack.com/p/sorare-le-se… This linked Substack for example is claiming: ➡️ Sorare raised approximately €680 million in 2021. ➡️ Annual estimated license costs: * Premier League: €36 million * LaLiga: around €20 million * Bundesliga: €10–15 million * Serie A: €5–10 million * NBA: up to €40 million * MLB: €20–30 million On top of that, many more leagues and clubs were licensed. ➡️ In total, annual licensing costs in average should be around €120 million, adding up to approximately €480 million over the last four years. According to statements by @ni2las, Sorare has renegotiated some deals and significantly reduced costs. However, licensing remains a major expense that could be a key risk factor. ➡️ By the end of 2024, Sorare probably have around €80 million left. For 2025, a projected loss of €40–50 million suggests financial pressure is increasing. ➡️ The companys valuation has dropped from €4.3 billion to €200–400 million. At the same time, revenue is shrinking: 2021: €104 million, 2022: €143 million, 2023: €59 million, 2024: €43 million, 2025 forecast: around €35 million. ➡️ Sorare will likely need another funding round. With such dramatically shrinking metrics, its questionable whether investors will pump another nine-figure amounts. So, theres is a real risk that Sorare could run out of money. But theres more: Another major potential trigger for failure is currently unfolding — a lawsuit in the UK accusing Sorare of operating as an unlicensed gambling platform. If regulators ultimately classify Sorares model as gambling, it would mean the company has been operating without a proper license for years, which could lead to serious legal and financial consequences. Im not a lawyer, so I wont speculate on the legal risks or possible outcomes — well have to wait and see. Lets just hope its not classified as gambling. (Even though… deep down, we all know it is.😅) 5. Game Economy & Card Inflation ➡️After the 2022 World Cup, not only unnecessary WC Card were released, also many new leagues were added and inflated the market from 2nd division teams (Germany, Spain), also Turkish league, Peru, Colombia, Argentina, Brazil, + NBA + MLB etc. Sorare probably thought Messi Instagram ads would bring millions of new users – but unforunately they didnt. Even worse, despite falling prices, they increased printing Cards and didnt stop. A card flood nobody could absorb. Prices crashed even more. (And im not talking about the time where nearly all NFT Projects Crashed) ➡️So Sorare introduced another shit idea: Thresholds for Limited, Rare SR & Unique. So guys buying SR and Unique Th Teams. They removed TH, because it wasnt sustainable. At lest they tried, but wow, what a surpise.😅 6. Communication & Credibility ➡️Sorare frequently leaks their own updates. Back when 2nd leagues being licensed, certain accounts suspiciously bought 2nd League Players, weeks before the announcement. I have to guess some insider informations leaked here too. ➡️Many card prices are within 1 year -70 to -95% down. Most managers I spoke saying its not even worth selling anymore, so they keep playing because theyre "trapped" in a way. ➡️In General the game is losing all their credibility, there is also much more like Legends etc. but i stop "Complaining" at this point. 7. What could have Helped in my Opinion? I dont want to be a know-it-all afterwards, but I would like to see some changes I truly believe they would work and have a positive effect, at least better than what we have been getting since last year: ➡️Introduce yearly card degradation of strength: 5% decrease of strength per year per Card → fairer transition to Inseason because Inseason always stronger. For example a 3-year old Mbappe Card gets 85% of his scoring points, Inseason Mbappe = 100% + 5%. You could still win Cash, Cards & Essence with Old Cards, but for Podium you will probably need some Inseason Cards unless you are very very lucky. So you still have good value in Classic, which gives even more Value in New Cards. ➡️Adding Fitness: After 3 matches, a player needs rest, or a system where playing reduces %, and resting recovers it. I think the most Classic players would accept it. What we got instead over the past years? Hard cuts and 2 class system. ➡️Faster introducing So7–11 formats, Impact: Fewer lineups, more tactics, probably more demand = more fun. ➡️ DNPs: The possibility to set up a 6th Man substitute, which is only used if a starter does not play. He would start with fewer base points as in Rivals, at 15 or 20 Points. So you still be able to Win or at least to secure a lower reward. Still better than nothing. ➡️Gamification instead of shock therapy → No abrupt cuts – gradual, transparent evolution and so on.... Like it or hate it. These are just few Ideas that could work. Its probably too late anyway and at this point it doesnt matter wtf some hater like me thinks to know what would be better for almost everybody. 8. A Game by Gamers, Crypto and Sports Enthusiasts? Sadly Not. ➡️I dont want to attack anyone personally. Im sure Sorare still has skilled people which works hard. But it feels like a game without any Vision or Strategy. They almost never seem to know where theyre want to go and predict how the effects will be. ➡️Features like Rivals had potential and the European Championship Event was great, but they let it go. I dont even want to know how many resources went into it, just to kill it like everything else. Now we have another stupid common game where you can buy jewels to buy Common Packs and which has nothing to do with the Pro version. 😂 ➡️Dont even get me started on @SorareNBA – thats a chapter of its own. 9. Fun to play ➡️I still enjoyed Sorare Game partly and just blanked all this shit out, but the biggest point of criticism is still: There is no more fun left. Essences and cash prizes are boring. Set up the same Players every GW in the same Competitions is boring. Scouting is boring. Playing Europe and Winning T2 DNP Korean Players = Bullshit and so on… ➡️The new season might be here and there fun, but in my opinion its playing against time & fire. If youre joining the new Season, you could possibly have some short-term success and fun with Inseason. Running against the clock every year and chasing to win your money back that you dont suffer a Big L is not a successful model, in my opinion it just stresses people out. And dont forget, someone will has to pay the annual costs for ca. 50 Mio/ year at some point. Even in Slots you have 90%+ Winrate, in Sorare I guess you have 90% Loose rate. 10. Conclusion This isnt meant as a bitter rant just because im quitting. I just decided to close this chapter for me and focus on other positive things, and if I feel like ever playing Sorare again, I just read this post again and remember. 😆 There are also points in here, I wish I knew before I spent tens of thousands of € into this game, i think wouldnt be that excited if i knew things like Sorare is paying for 4 years around 500 Million € just for Licenses without a plan, plus changing the game every year. If just one Person reads all this Text and becomes more aware not to spent more than he can afford to lose, i can say it was worth it. Why? Im not Robin Hood, but I know the most of us work probably hard for our money. For me, loosing 100,000 euros from a few hard working guys is worth more than some 680 million investment from a bank, that can create money out of nothing anyway. In general, I wouldnt recommend this game to anyone and havent done it for over 3 years. I dont even know any Sorare Manager from over 100 guys i knew that would recommend it to anybody too tbh and thats a real problem. It was a great idea and a great game with big potentials – but for me it was managed into the ground and will be very difficult to achieve a turnaround with a right skeptical and negative community. I still hope somehow that I am completely wrong. I would love to see the remaining passionate managers succeed, based on these decisions and all the failures, but I still think thats highly unlikely. Go fuck😂 Im out.#Sorare #NFT #Web3









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