junhuan li

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junhuan li

junhuan li

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Katılım Aralık 2023
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moreless
moreless@moreless·
你接到了一通电话。 去北京报到。 中国的国家发改委(NDRC)要见你。 你坐在他们对面。他们对一切了如指掌。 公司的重组。 迁往新加坡的举动。 来自 Benchmark 的 7500 万美元投资。 来自 Meta 的 20 亿美元收购金。 你在北京裁掉的那 80 名员工。 以及你决定不再向中国市场提供的产品。 他们提问。你作答。 会议结束了。 你被禁止出境,无法离开中国。 没有指控。没有逮捕。没有审判。也没有明确的期限。 你可以在国内任何地方旅行。 上海。深圳。成都。你想去哪儿都行。 唯独不能离开这个国家。 你的本名叫肖红。大家习惯叫你“Red”。你今年 32 岁。 这就是你走到这一步的始末。 你在中国中部地区长大。攻读了工程学专业。 你开发过各种应用程序(App)。而且做得非常出色。 随后,你打造了 Manus。 这是一个人工智能代理(AI agent),它不仅仅会“说话”,更能真正地“干活”。 它是一位数字员工,没有国界,无需签证,不分国籍。 短短 8 个月内,营收便突破了 1 亿美元。 然而,你是中国人。 而美国刚刚颁布禁令,禁止美国投资者向中国的 AI 领域注资。 一夜之间,你的公司便失去了投资价值。 于是,你做出了全球所有聪明创业者都会做出的选择。 你在新加坡注册成立了公司主体。 美国人通常会选择特拉华州。 欧洲人通常会选择爱尔兰。 印度人通常会选择迪拜。 这并非犯罪,而是一种商业策略。 你的律师建议你这么做。你的投资人也建议你这么做。所有人都建议你这么做。 你将整个公司进行了迁移。新加坡、东京、旧金山…… 你关闭了北京的办公室。 裁掉了在中国境内的 80 名员工。 并停止向中国市场提供你的产品。 彻底的切割。如今,这已是一家全球化的公司。 Benchmark 为你开出了一张 7500 万美元的支票。 随后,Meta 打来了电话。 20 亿美元。 全资收购。并授予你副总裁(VP)的职位。 你所打造的 AI 技术将被整合进 Facebook、Instagram 和 WhatsApp——触达数十亿用户。 你年仅 32 岁,却刚刚缔造了历史上规模最大的一笔“中国背景 AI 公司被美国巨头收购”的交易。 你的母亲为你感到骄傲。 你飞回了中国。为了探望家人,也为了彻底告别过去的生活。 你没有丝毫犹豫。 那是家。你这一生,一直在回家的路上。 随后,你接到了那通电话。 而此刻,你正坐在北京,与国家发改委(NDRC)的官员们隔桌相望;他们正告知你:你不能离开。 北京传达的信息简单明了: 你生于斯。 你在此创业立业。 你在此求学深造。 代码始于此。 知识产权亦源于此。 一个新加坡的住址,并不能让你成为新加坡人。 一家开曼群岛的控股公司,并不能让你变成无国籍者。 一张印着 Meta 标志的名片,并不能让你摇身变为美国人。 他们将此斥之为“新加坡洗白”(Singapore washing)。 而你,就这样沦为了那个“典型”。 美国曾要求你离开中国。 而中国却告诉你:你从未真正离开过。 两个超级大国。两套截然不同的规则。 这两套规则同时作用于你。而无论哪一方,都不曾征询过你的意愿。 此刻,你的 AI 产品已在全球 50 个国家上线运行。 无需护照,无需签证,更不受任何限制。 它正服务着数百万计的用户,而你却只能枯坐于此。 你亲手打造出了那个能够抵达地球上任何角落的造物。 然而,那个唯一无法自由通行的,却恰恰是你自己。
George Pu@TheGeorgePu

You get a phone call. Report to Beijing. China's NDRC wants to see you. You sit down across from them. They know everything. The restructuring. The Singapore move. The $75 million from Benchmark. The $2 billion from Meta. The 80 employees you laid off in Beijing. The product you made unavailable in China. They ask questions. You answer. The meeting ends. You are exit-banned from China. No charges. No arrest. No trial. No timeline. You can travel anywhere inside the country. Shanghai. Shenzhen. Chengdu. Wherever you want. You just can't leave. Your name is Xiao Hong. You go by Red. You're 32. This is how you got here. You grew up in central China. Studied engineering. Built apps. You were good at it. Then you built Manus. An AI agent that doesn't just talk - it works. A digital employee with no borders, no visa, no nationality. $100 million in revenue in 8 months. But you're Chinese. And America just banned Americans from investing in Chinese AI. Overnight, your company is un-investable. So you do what every smart founder on earth does. You incorporate in Singapore. Americans do this with Delaware. Europeans do this with Ireland. Indians do this with Dubai. It's not a crime. It's a strategy. Your lawyers told you to do it. Your investors told you to do it. Everyone told you to do it. You move the whole company. Singapore. Tokyo. San Francisco. You shut down the Beijing office. Lay off 80 people in China. Make your product unavailable in the Chinese market. Clean break. Global company now. Benchmark writes you a $75 million check. Then Meta calls. $2 billion. Full acquisition. VP title. Your AI goes into Facebook. Instagram. WhatsApp. Billions of users. You're 32 and you just built the biggest Chinese-to-American AI exit in history. Your mom is proud of you. You fly back to China. To see family. To close out the old life. You don't think twice. It's home. You've been going home your whole life. Then you get the call. And now you're sitting across from the NDRC in Beijing and they're telling you that you can't leave. Beijing's message is simple. You were born here. You built this here. You learned here. The code started here. The IP started here. A Singapore address doesn't make you Singaporean. A Cayman holding company doesn't make you stateless. A Meta business card doesn't make you American. They're calling it 'Singapore washing.' You just became the example. The US told you to leave China. China told you that you never left. Two superpowers. Two sets of rules. Both applied to you. Neither asked. Your AI is live in 50 countries right now. No passport. No visa. No restrictions. Serving millions of people while you sit here. You built the thing that goes anywhere on earth. You're the one who can't.

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sunseal@sunseal2·
@veteranmaid @89JinPing64 因为日本的防空比纳粹德国差很多,美国佬对日本的空袭确实经常提前撒传单
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Laurent Michelon Officiel
What a long message to show that you either don't understand or don't respect sovereignty. Globalization meant draining the best brains from the rest of the world, and buying on the cheap the great ideas, solely to serve the Anglo-American hegemon. That's so 20th century. It is no more, and it is good news for 7/8th of the world population.
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George Pu
George Pu@TheGeorgePu·
You get a phone call. Report to Beijing. China's NDRC wants to see you. You sit down across from them. They know everything. The restructuring. The Singapore move. The $75 million from Benchmark. The $2 billion from Meta. The 80 employees you laid off in Beijing. The product you made unavailable in China. They ask questions. You answer. The meeting ends. You are exit-banned from China. No charges. No arrest. No trial. No timeline. You can travel anywhere inside the country. Shanghai. Shenzhen. Chengdu. Wherever you want. You just can't leave. Your name is Xiao Hong. You go by Red. You're 32. This is how you got here. You grew up in central China. Studied engineering. Built apps. You were good at it. Then you built Manus. An AI agent that doesn't just talk - it works. A digital employee with no borders, no visa, no nationality. $100 million in revenue in 8 months. But you're Chinese. And America just banned Americans from investing in Chinese AI. Overnight, your company is un-investable. So you do what every smart founder on earth does. You incorporate in Singapore. Americans do this with Delaware. Europeans do this with Ireland. Indians do this with Dubai. It's not a crime. It's a strategy. Your lawyers told you to do it. Your investors told you to do it. Everyone told you to do it. You move the whole company. Singapore. Tokyo. San Francisco. You shut down the Beijing office. Lay off 80 people in China. Make your product unavailable in the Chinese market. Clean break. Global company now. Benchmark writes you a $75 million check. Then Meta calls. $2 billion. Full acquisition. VP title. Your AI goes into Facebook. Instagram. WhatsApp. Billions of users. You're 32 and you just built the biggest Chinese-to-American AI exit in history. Your mom is proud of you. You fly back to China. To see family. To close out the old life. You don't think twice. It's home. You've been going home your whole life. Then you get the call. And now you're sitting across from the NDRC in Beijing and they're telling you that you can't leave. Beijing's message is simple. You were born here. You built this here. You learned here. The code started here. The IP started here. A Singapore address doesn't make you Singaporean. A Cayman holding company doesn't make you stateless. A Meta business card doesn't make you American. They're calling it 'Singapore washing.' You just became the example. The US told you to leave China. China told you that you never left. Two superpowers. Two sets of rules. Both applied to you. Neither asked. Your AI is live in 50 countries right now. No passport. No visa. No restrictions. Serving millions of people while you sit here. You built the thing that goes anywhere on earth. You're the one who can't.
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DerekMondelli@DerekMondelli·
All of their 'high end tech' failed in recent military operations... They are not food self sustainable (USA is) they are net importers. They are not energy self sustainable either. They were controlled historically by the tiny island of Japan due to their unfortunate geography. The list goes on. The USA is the world's sole Super Power. Anon throw-away accounts are the dumbest.
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Laowai@CaptainNotSacks·
@TheGeorgePu So someone took advantage of the positive environment for building AI ecosystems in China, then tried to take it overseas and not allow the profits from their investments in people and policies. China is smart.
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junhuan li
junhuan li@CCFCCbf·
@TheBlackWallaby @TheGeorgePu 有些重要细节这篇文章没说,这家公司是由政府资助的,如公司占用的土地就是政府免费租给他们的
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Lucas | 🇦🇺
Lucas | 🇦🇺@TheBlackWallaby·
China doesn't process corporate restructuring as severance. The relationship between citizen, talent, and state isn't a contract you can terminate by filing paperwork in a different jurisdiction. The code started there. The education happened there. The 80 employees were there. In Communal Kernel terms, the founder didn't "leave" he attempted to export system built resources without a valid handshake. Beijing's logic is internally consistent. You don't get to extract the benefits of the system (education, talent pipeline, early-stage ecosystem) and then restructure your way out of the obligation to profit.
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junhuan li
junhuan li@CCFCCbf·
@TheGeorgePu 这人活该,政府给他大量骰子有成果转手卖了就想拍拍屁股走人。他公司的地都是政府免费租给他的
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Maenles
Maenles@luckfu·
@moreless 到底拿没拿政府补贴嘛,这事有没有证据
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junhuan li@CCFCCbf·
@ThouShaltAtone @moreless 他要是不把国内员工全裁了,也不至于直接把他限了,这等于吃我的用我的还要把我给卖了,这谁答应
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大胆刁民🏳️‍🌈
大胆刁民🏳️‍🌈@ThouShaltAtone·
@moreless 这个故事告诉我们,祖国才不是什么母亲!哪个母亲不想让孩子飞越高越远越好呢?🤪
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junhuan li@CCFCCbf·
@moreless 这篇文章的问题在于终点着墨写中国限制他却完全没有提美国之前是怎么做的,美国多次以危害国家安全为由禁止收购多加企业。最典型的就是英伟达,国内的5090只有D和Dv2,黄皮衣的D被发现留了手段的一起被禁了,之后就诞生了被严重阉割的Dv2,即使如此美国仍在AI领域落后
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川柳作@lgulgl·
@CCFCCbf @jiejie76480222 @MizukiWorkshop @MiryanSender 这个时候就有人要问了,铜质铜质、为什么乌克兰农村突然出现这么多金属中毒的人呢,为什么前期红军指挥这么混乱导致几十万的士兵白白送死呢,为什么真正有思想觉悟的铜质需要靠惩戒营和惩戒连配合督战队抓了几万兽人才能勉强维持士气呢😁
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Miryan@MiryanSender·
不开玩笑,钢炼确实我读过最心生厌恶的一部经典文学著作,保尔因为冬妮娅无法放弃所谓的资产阶级作风和精致的穿着而与她分手那段足以让三年级的我就恨得牙痒。今日很显然我会说这是对以荒谬的客体形而上历史使命摧残人类精神的个性与创造性和殖民主体生活世界的抵触,那时的我只是本能觉得人不再是人了
陈哥说@chengeshuo666

一位女脱口秀演员嘲讽保尔柯察金:“当我看那个书名的一瞬间,我就知道这男的真的一无所有,那本书叫做钢铁是怎样炼成的。”

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禿道道🐟@dearemon·
听到楼下 水果摊 在吵架 瞄了一眼
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常赛@ChangS69585·
我真的以为这玩意是白人男人和黑人男人在谈恋爱,旁边那几个女的是吃他俩cp的腐女。但是,我看了好多评论和转发。。看来我的理解不对。但是,说真的奈飞估计以这个图为灵感,正在计划拍摄什么bl电视剧。
Alexander 𖤓 Nietzschean Vitalist@UbermenschMind

Life is hierarchical

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junhuan li@CCFCCbf·
@zuikaku1259 @qX4JODkeHJ0Ne3Z 不可能的,中俄这情况脑子有病才会用核武器,中国发展的好好的干嘛自杀,俄罗斯虽然被制裁了这么多年,但是因为隔壁就是中国根本不缺少商品供应,实际上也还过得去
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瑞鶴@zuikaku1259·
@qX4JODkeHJ0Ne3Z それでもいいんだよ 核を躊躇なく使うキチガイ国家だと中露が馬脚を顕せば、アメリカイギリスフランスから核のシャワーが中露に降り注ぐだろう
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ZEP ⅩⅢ@qX4JODkeHJ0Ne3Z·
もしも戦争になったら、ロシアと中国だけで、日本を数時間で壊滅できる。 米国は二国との全面戦争は絶対に避けたいから日本を見捨てて軍は撤退する。 ロシア、中国は日本の軍国化を警戒し軍備増強について懸念を発しているが、 政府は真摯に受け止めず、メディアもそれを伝えない。 今の状況👇️
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JIM zhuang@JIMzhuang6·
@FyranEndersong @qX4JODkeHJ0Ne3Z 之前我是非常支持和平統一,現在看推特跟臉書,我覺得和平統一的後果可能需要浪費很多教育經費,不如核平統一
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junhuan li@CCFCCbf·
@yuukokudan @jiye9246 @qX4JODkeHJ0Ne3Z 日韩邪教真的太猖狂了,近些年最有影响力的时间就是山上彻也刺杀安倍晋三,国内的法轮功这些邪教,国内发现了之后直接给他全面掐死
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不肖鮫島です
不肖鮫島です@yuukokudan·
@jiye9246 @qX4JODkeHJ0Ne3Z 高市は日本人が困窮するのを望むカルト教団に密接に繋がっているので、日本国を壊れる政策を打つのは当たり前と言えば当たり前なんですよ。
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junhuan li@CCFCCbf·
@niceboatmarth @daneishe888 曾经苏联在的时候,美国工人的待遇之高全世界都羡慕,一个人一份工作就能养活一家五口加房子与车子,可是现在美国人过得是怎样的生活?苏联只需要在那里就逼迫的资本家们不得不把手中的利益放给群众
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MARS
MARS@niceboatmarth·
@daneishe888 中国の軍産、建材、製鉄所、セメント、建機メーカーの経営者が揃って歓喜するだろう。 特に超音速ミサイルを低コストで大量生産できるようになってウキウキしている経営者がいると最近聞いた。 「民主化」を望んで欲しいか? こいつらのカネで中国のネトウヨが買収される世界に生きたいか?
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she888🇯🇵🤝🇨🇳日中友好!
もし中国が日本や欧米式に「民主化」された社会だったら危ないところでしたね⋯何故か日本人は中国の「民主化」を願って止まないのですが、そんなに超音速ミサイルを撃ち込んでもらいたいのだろうか?🤔
MARS@niceboatmarth

対外関係、特に外交で忍耐強すぎる中国共産党は、過剰なまでに「弱腰」だとさえ言う声も散見される。 中国に帰国する度に、いかにも教養の度合いが低そうな人から「今の中国の軍事力があれば核戦争以外を恐れる必要は無い!日本をまっ平にしてしまえ!」と言う人間を見てはウンザリしている。

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