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@sasha_byeeers2 Not what "straight man" means in this context. They're very clearly talking about character trope.

so let’s recap during the filming of s5 epilogue the duffers told noah "can you not be so..." - referring to him acting too gay - but HE IS GAY, and also they outed finn literally saying mike is completely straight but finn makes it hard to believe because of the way he is???

@bylerapologist I personally think Finn *thought* it was going to happen and so played certain scenes certain ways. And before anyone says that directors would shut that down if that was the case, the same thing happened with Harry and Luna in the HP movies. No one told Dan Radcliffe to stop.

can we stop saying this PLEASE

@Trivilergent @killingspacing So do you just avert your eyes during sex scenes in movies for fear of "cheating on your partner" or nah? Also better not watch any type of romance at all. If you become invested in any relationship that's not your own, you're emotionally cheating on your partner. Like, c'mon.

@CKaccess @killingspacing You're getting off to a person on the screen having sex regardless

men in my comments explaining to me that im controlling n insecure for not wanting my bf to cheat on me by jerking off to naked women n imagining sex with them becus it doesnt mean anything n men need physical relief n i should understand he still loves me

@Trivilergent @killingspacing I literally said above that it doesn't even have to do with the specific people on screen

@CKaccess @killingspacing You are quite literally getting off to another person that's how porn works 😭

@Trivilergent @killingspacing No, you're not "getting off" to other ppl, you're getting off BY YOURSELF. You're using the product made by other ppl to get you in the mood. By your logic, no one should ever read smut & find it hot if they're in a rs, it's cheating. Getting turned on by imagining other people.

@CKaccess @killingspacing The issue is that you get off to other people, which would be cheating

@Trivilergent @killingspacing Yes? I sincerely don't understand the issue. Unless it's just insecurity on your part.

@CKaccess @killingspacing Yeah no you're still watching another naked person have sex

@SIRE4k @Mamasamamacoosa @killingspacing @Diablo876 Yeah, that really confused me. Cause like, that's what I'm seeking out really good smut for. Why else would you even read it?

@Mamasamamacoosa @CKaccess @killingspacing @Diablo876 Literally what they’re used for a lot of the time but ok?

@lynlizd Tell me why I could literally see them doing a cash grab revival and STILL leaving it open ended.

and after all this time I still believe that some day they will make byler canon. idgaf i bet it’ll be a cash grab revival movie or show in 10 or 20 years that takes place some time in the future. I just feel in my gut they’ll make it canon. call me delusional idc

@nopuriia @yamarama444 @killingspacing @Diablo876 It's NOT necessarily any specific person on screen though -- it's just the act of sex itself. When I watch, it's not like I'm fantasizing about being with one of the guys. It's more like, 'oh, he's giving it to her good, that's hot.' Like, maybe you just don't get it.

@CKaccess @yamarama444 @killingspacing @Diablo876 You are absolutely being intellectually dishonest and disingenuous and if you can not see how acting on being aroused by another person who is not your partner is incredibly inappropriate then we have nothing to talk about.

@paladinthewise @pegatron44 Ehh, I feel bad for him in the s3 interviews, when he clearly has a crush but is also very insecure and nervous about it. Here he seems... bolder and almost smug (?) about it. Kinda makes me think that by this point someone had already gotten what he wanted...

@pegatron44 i kinda feel bad for him when i see this 😭

there’s something about the way Noah just so visibly has a crush it makes me soooo 🥺🥺🥺🥺🥺 he’s so cute

@yourstrulivia I still think it's more that other writers had an actual good story mapped out, but then the writers' strike got rid of all of them after v1 was written but before v2. Then the Duffers had to throw together v2 & a finale. Explains why they seem to not know what they even wrote.

Yess exactly me too😭😭 like I think they said before years ago that they were working on s4/s5 at the same time /planning them both simultaneously, so how tf did they only have the finale written in september 2024, doesn’t make any sense

@Trivilergent @killingspacing Who are you to say what's fine and what's not? Also, when I watch, I'm not ever imagining that I'm involved? Maybe imagining how it would physically feel, but that doesn't have to do with the specific people on screen. Like, it's just a tool. You just don't see it the same way.

@CKaccess @killingspacing Go ahead and tell your boyfriend you like watching videos of naked men having sex and imagining yourself there 😭 Watching porn in a relationship isn't okay. Watching it single is fine.

@nopuriia @yamarama444 @killingspacing @Diablo876 But you're NOT "acting on the attraction" in the sense of trying to get with the person or even fantasizing about being with that specific person. It's just about getting yourself in the mood so you can satisfy an urge *yourself*. I don't think I'm the one being dishonest.

@CKaccess @yamarama444 @killingspacing @Diablo876 this is so disingenuous. Having attraction is fine, ACTING on that attraction in a sexual manner is not. Stop being intellectually dishonest.

@yamarama444 @killingspacing @Diablo876 So??? They're doing a job. Is someone in a relationship with you not allowed to find other people attractive ever?

@CKaccess @killingspacing @Diablo876 smut = characters in a story, not VIDEOS of REAL PEOPLE

@pialoveswill I actually think it's more meaningful to show a main character (Mike) struggling with comphet. Especially bc the ga didn't even suspect it for so long. Just like in real life. Opening the door to the convo. that often people don't even know their sexuality would be so important.

i get so mad thinking about how revolutionary byler being endgame would've been, in one of the biggest shows like stranger things, giving a queer main character that ending and putting it in front of a massive, often homophobic audience. that would've meant everything

@__Bearb__ @PanderShirts But I (as a woman) just don't understand why anyone would even consider it cheating. Masturbation is natural and healthy, even when you're in a rs. And porn is just a tool to me to help you do that.

@PanderShirts So there's this thing called boundaries, not all are the same. In my relationship, porn is considered cheating. Both him and I consider it that. If you don't think so, and your partner doesn't think so, then for you it isn't.

y'all are looking for men that don't watch porn at all ever? lol

@killingspacing I'm not in a rs, but even if I was I would still probably "get myself off" from time to time bc why not? And yes, I'd prob. watch porn (or read smut, which is the same thing for women) to do so. & I'd expect my bf to do so every once in a while too. I don't get any part of this.

@killingspacing Alright, as a woman, the whole "watching porn is literally cheating" is so bizaare and braindead that I can't even understand it. bc I also like... watch it myself? bc sometimes you want to get off and it's a tool to help get you there? Maybe y'all just have low sex drives?

@killingspacing @Diablo876 Girl 🙄 Men are naturally more stimulated visually. Women are naturally more stimulated by the emotions involved in a situation. Women reading smut IS THE EQUIVALENT to men watching porn. It's evolutionary biology.

@Diablo876 the equivalent of women reading smut is men reading smut and the equivalent of men watching porn is women watching porn. i understand having boundaries for both in a relationship 🤨

@jaydenkraag @WilltheVVise But that doesn't make sense either because she's never been able to pull people into the void before (someone just pointed out that her and Kali even have a conversation about it). So. The whole thing just sucks basically.

@jaydenkraag @WilltheVVise You're correct. The problem is that no explanation makes total sense. But the idea *was* supposed to be that she couldn't have used her powers with the speakers going off. But since she *did* (void scene) she must have been somewhere else.

Actually tired of seeing people say "I didn't know mIvn were still together until the void scene" that scene didn't happen!! It wasn't real! It was hallucinated, confirmed! The text leaves AMPLE room to infer that they never got back together after Lenora