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20 {} “If we sin, we are thine, knowing thy greatness: and if we sin not, we know that we are counted with thee. For to know thee is perfect justice”
Katılım Aralık 2018
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@ScholasticsFan @DoorDashThomist yeah i really dont get how it’s being read as a rejection of sufficient grace
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@DoorDashThomist Many do not understand this condemnation unfortunately.
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“CONDEMNED: The grace of Jesus Christ, which is the efficacious principle of every kind of good, is necessary for every good work; without it, not only is nothing done, but nothing can be done.” (Unigenitus n. 2)
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@ruckusofantioch it’s basically just if u care about the incarnation lol
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@CathRoser They giving everyone St. Maximus the Confessor 😭
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@Infanttheology @ScholasticsFan Viz. that it is merely an evil and not a guilt (i.e. sin proper) so long as it is not “drawn” to the “unlawful” (i.e. consenting to concupiscence and actually incurring guilt)
And that concupiscence remission following baptism is with respect to the PAST guilt incurred
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@Infanttheology @ScholasticsFan The question in the first highlighted portion is pretty explicitly explained by St. Augustine in On Marriage and Concupiscence within the passages that I cited
The passage cited in the other highlighted portion also pretty explicitly endorse what I’m saying
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The Roman Catholic Church threw the Augustinian wing of the church under the bus at the Council of Trent.
We Lutherans are that church now!
Concupiscence is sin itself! Evil desire is sin itself!
If you do not believe the blood of Christ must cover such sin, you will perish!
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@redeemed_zoomer All having different polity, sacramentology, soteriology, and visibly excommunicated from one another
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I believe Mainline Protestantism (a formal global communion of over 300 Million Christians) is the true Church, properly speaking, and that all other Christians are separated brethren
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“If thou wilt be perfect, go sell what thou hast, and give to the poor… every one that hath left house, or brethren, or sisters, or father, or mother, or wife, or children, or lands for my name's sake, shall receive an hundredfold, and shall possess life everlasting”
Redeemed Zoomer 👑@redeemed_zoomer
This kinda holiness is far superior to monks meditating on mountains btw
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From people getting fed up of that stupid nonsense.
Child of SS Thomas@ChildOfStThomas
Catholics today struggle with laxism greatly. Reading books from the Saints, you will see condemnations of people who do not take measures to prepare for the Eucharist, who do not prepare for confession, for people who do not fast, etc. Where does this laxism come from?
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@Infanttheology @ScholasticsFan I could just say likewise lol
See On Nature and Grace by Domingo de Soto, the relevant treatment of Scheeben in his dogmatics, etc.
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@DeoVindiceXIV Yeah it’s kinda hard because well over half of the questions’ answers were all correct so you kinda j have to go off of preference
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"Exalted among the the Saints and Angels, she surpasses the merits and titles of all. However much the stars shine, the moon excels them both in magnitude and splendor; so too this Virgin surpasses both natures, both in the immensity of her grace and brilliance of her virtues"
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@Infanttheology @ScholasticsFan He also explicitly says that concupiscence is a punishment for sin within the same work
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@Infanttheology @ScholasticsFan The guilt which is remitted is specifically that which was incurred in the "natural" / unregenerate man. Kinda just reading comprehension issue lol
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"If there is any hope in us, any grace or salvation, we should know it flows from her who ascended abounding in delights—With all the marrow of our hearts, with all the affections of our being, let us venerate Mary; Such is willed by Him who has us to have all things through her"
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@Infanttheology @ScholasticsFan …but this guilt, by Christ's grace through the remission of all sins, is not suffered to prevail in the regenerate man, if he does not yield obedience to it whenever it urges him to the commission of evil.”
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@Infanttheology @ScholasticsFan …by a certain manner of speech it is called sin, since it arose from sin, and, when it has the upper hand, produces sin, the guilt of it prevails in the natural man…
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@Infanttheology @ScholasticsFan Your specified "RC teaching" is nearly what St. Augustine affirms verbatim btw
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@ScholasticsFan "The question is whether it remains formally sin in the regenerate."
Because current RC teaching says if no consent is involved it is not considered/called sin, correct?
Whereas we would say even sans consent it is damnable sin but not reckoned sin because of Christ's blood.
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