Lukas Scooty

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Lukas Scooty

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Lukas Scooty@CatholicLukas·2d

@badatcatholic @Roman__Valentin @__Isabella__007 @ColleenEldrach1 @Zachspeare @maccabeanpapist @1Friarminor You should slow down and carefully read what he said. If you can't understand it, or understand the words but not the meaning why are you arguing? Then address it in detail explaining why the midwives interpret the encyclical. Explain why popes make mistakes but never with bod.

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badatbeingcatholic.com@badatcatholic·2d

@Roman__Valentin @CatholicLukas @__Isabella__007 @ColleenEldrach1 @Zachspeare @maccabeanpapist @1Friarminor So your position is that he believed in BOD, but he wrote an encyclical rejecting BOD, without realizing it?

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The Maccabean Papist@maccabeanpapist·3 Tem

Sedevacantism is the way to hold on to the Faith. The SSPX is obsolete.

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Lukas Scooty@CatholicLukas·2d

@badatcatholic @Roman__Valentin @__Isabella__007 @ColleenEldrach1 @Zachspeare @maccabeanpapist @1Friarminor Do you even believe in papal infallibility or is everything a pope says even in a speech always true? What are the requirements for infallibility as defined by Vatican I, and why did the council make a distinction if everything they say is always correct?

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badatbeingcatholic.com@badatcatholic·2d

@CatholicLukas @Roman__Valentin @__Isabella__007 @ColleenEldrach1 @Zachspeare @maccabeanpapist @1Friarminor Is Pius XII part of the “salvation outside the church crowd”?

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Lukas Scooty@CatholicLukas·2d

@Roman__Valentin @badatcatholic @__Isabella__007 @ColleenEldrach1 @Zachspeare @maccabeanpapist @1Friarminor They're certainly in a cult. The salvation outside the Church crowd strongly agrees on that one thing, yet disagree on sedes, Novus Ordo and all sorts of matters. Classic divide and conquer tactics. Claiming those who reject Christ are saved by implicit desire, but we go to hell.

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Roman@Roman__Valentin·2d

@CatholicLukas @badatcatholic @__Isabella__007 @ColleenEldrach1 @Zachspeare @maccabeanpapist @1Friarminor The address to midwives argument is so ignorant, just like their other recent responses on Trent 5.5. These BOD cultists will never explain how @1Friarminor is wrong on the text of Trent, as you requested. Sadly, they have long been a waste of time with few honest people.

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Lukas Scooty@CatholicLukas·2d

@badatcatholic @__Isabella__007 @ColleenEldrach1 @Zachspeare @maccabeanpapist @1Friarminor Pius named the members. Take time to try and read what is said about the authority structure of the Church. According to you if a pope said some error to some midwives that is binding, while a huge encyclical, while not infallible, should be interpreted by that speech.

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badatbeingcatholic.com@badatcatholic·2d

@CatholicLukas @__Isabella__007 @ColleenEldrach1 @Zachspeare @maccabeanpapist @1Friarminor You made the claim that Pius XII’s writing in MC is a condemnation of BOD, and I simply pointed out that Pius XII himself didn’t even believe that. Jesus Christ could come down to earth and tell you BOD is real, and you’ll still argue with him about the grammar used in Trent.

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Lukas Scooty@CatholicLukas·2d

@badatcatholic @__Isabella__007 @ColleenEldrach1 @Zachspeare @maccabeanpapist @1Friarminor You're not being serious. Saying a major encyclical is interpreted by an "address to midwives." That's why you think people are saved outside the Church, claim, but reject papal infallibility, invert authority levels infallibly defined, and so on. I tried to help you. Be well.

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badatbeingcatholic.com@badatcatholic·2d

@CatholicLukas @__Isabella__007 @ColleenEldrach1 @Zachspeare @maccabeanpapist @1Friarminor Yes I absolutely an being honest! And I know this because Pius XII also said this in his address to midwives, which proves that he does not see any contradiction:

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Lukas Scooty@CatholicLukas·2d

@badatcatholic @__Isabella__007 @ColleenEldrach1 @Zachspeare @maccabeanpapist @1Friarminor No. You're asking for a specific condemnation by name. The point is when Pius XII explains only those who are in the Catholic Church are those who have been water baptized, do you think you are being honest to say he really wrote the opposite: not only those baptized?

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badatbeingcatholic.com@badatcatholic·2d

@CatholicLukas @__Isabella__007 @ColleenEldrach1 @Zachspeare @maccabeanpapist @1Friarminor Pius XII didn’t correct anything Ligouri said though, which means there is still the possibility and likilhood that what they both said are compatible. It seems you do in fact believe that no one condemned his error until Friarminor, which is an insane claim

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Lukas Scooty@CatholicLukas·2d

@badatcatholic @__Isabella__007 @ColleenEldrach1 @Zachspeare @maccabeanpapist @1Friarminor You said, "why hasn’t any person in Church history (saint or otherwise) pointed out his error?" I showed you Pius XII in a major encyclical saying only the water baptized are members of the Church. No mention of BOD. Detail the @1Friarminor error on his Latin syntax of Trent.

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badatbeingcatholic.com@badatcatholic·2d

@CatholicLukas @__Isabella__007 @ColleenEldrach1 @Zachspeare @maccabeanpapist @1Friarminor This doesn’t answer my question at all

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Lukas Scooty@CatholicLukas·4d

@__Isabella__007 @badatcatholic @ColleenEldrach1 @Zachspeare @maccabeanpapist @1Friarminor Her response is exhibit one for BOD. Imagine having the pride and blindness to think you are an expert on the Latin syntax of Trent, block anyone who disagrees, not even understand what Trent 5.5 says in English, with this absurdity the height of your knowledge on the subject.

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Isabella ⋆⋆♕⋆⋆ Roman Catholic@__Isabella__007·4d

@badatcatholic @CatholicLukas @ColleenEldrach1 @Zachspeare @maccabeanpapist @1Friarminor Typical genius level BOD supporter. Blocks. Can't answer points. Can't understand Trent 5.5 infallibly defined the born again go to heaven immediately, no purgatory. Contrarily, St. Alphonsus says BOD go to purgatory. Yet quote him as the BOD advocate and must always be correct.

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Lukas Scooty@CatholicLukas·4d

@badatcatholic @__Isabella__007 @ColleenEldrach1 @Zachspeare @maccabeanpapist @1Friarminor It should be easy for you to correct @1Friarminor and, as you say, his novel interpretation of Latin grammar and syntax from Trent. Explain in detail how he is wrong. Show us how it's done.

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badatbeingcatholic.com@badatcatholic·4d

@CatholicLukas @__Isabella__007 @ColleenEldrach1 @Zachspeare @maccabeanpapist @1Friarminor I don’t reject Trent, I reject your novel interpretation of Trent No one between Trent and Feeney rejected BOD. If you can name a single theologian who did, I would be intrigued.

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Lukas Scooty@CatholicLukas·4d

@badatcatholic @__Isabella__007 @ColleenEldrach1 @Zachspeare @maccabeanpapist @1Friarminor BOD people are the ones you're calling heretics? They deny water baptism for salvation. You have a problem with simple logic. Claiming argument from silence is a proof for BOD. "no one condemned so and so." Water baptism for justification and salvation are ancient dogmas.

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badatbeingcatholic.com@badatcatholic·4d

@CatholicLukas @__Isabella__007 @ColleenEldrach1 @Zachspeare @maccabeanpapist @1Friarminor Salvation without water baptism

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Lukas Scooty@CatholicLukas·4d

@badatcatholic @__Isabella__007 @ColleenEldrach1 @Zachspeare @maccabeanpapist @1Friarminor Most the Church Fathers agreed water baptism is absolute for salvation/being born again. In modern times Pius XII Mystici Corporis #22, as just one example. A major encyclical naming only those who are in the Catholic Church. But you hold salvation outside Church membership.

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badatbeingcatholic.com@badatcatholic·4d

@__Isabella__007 @CatholicLukas @ColleenEldrach1 @Zachspeare @maccabeanpapist @1Friarminor I’m saying if Ligouri misunderstood the Latin, why hasn’t any person in Church history (saint or otherwise) pointed out his error? Why would it take nearly 300 years before a Twitter anon finally corrected him? The answer is that every theologian since then agrees with Ligouri

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Lukas Scooty@CatholicLukas·4d

@badatcatholic @__Isabella__007 @ColleenEldrach1 @Zachspeare @maccabeanpapist @1Friarminor So you agree with St. Alphonsus and reject infallible Trent if none are found that corrected him? I already suggested a long thread by @1Friarminor where Trent infallibly "corrected" BOD in the Latin text. You might want to read it all to see if you are out of your depth here.

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badatbeingcatholic.com@badatcatholic·4d

@__Isabella__007 @CatholicLukas @ColleenEldrach1 @Zachspeare @maccabeanpapist @1Friarminor Can you quote any saint or theologian who corrected Ligouri on his error? Since you claim so many disagreed with him

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Lukas Scooty@CatholicLukas·4d

@badatcatholic @__Isabella__007 @ColleenEldrach1 @Zachspeare @maccabeanpapist @1Friarminor What's the heresy you referred to?

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badatbeingcatholic.com@badatcatholic·4d

@CatholicLukas @__Isabella__007 @ColleenEldrach1 @Zachspeare @maccabeanpapist @1Friarminor When did I call you a heretic?

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Lukas Scooty@CatholicLukas·5d

@badatcatholic @__Isabella__007 @ColleenEldrach1 @Zachspeare @maccabeanpapist @1Friarminor Yes, but you are the one calling others heretics for holding water baptism is absolute, even though the Church always infallibly held it. Why? It's very suspicious for a person claiming to be Catholic to condemn Catholics who hold one must be of the Faithful to be saved.

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badatbeingcatholic.com@badatcatholic·5d

@CatholicLukas @__Isabella__007 @ColleenEldrach1 @Zachspeare @maccabeanpapist @1Friarminor I am also a fallible person speaking in a non-infallible capacity. Heresy is a heresy, no?

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Lukas Scooty@CatholicLukas·5d

This entire thread going back months should be read by anyone honestly seeking the truth about absolute water baptism for justification vs. BOD.

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Trent 6.6: Cum + ablative gerundive (baptismo suscipiendo) denotes strict manner/concurrence. The 'new life' is grammatically locked to the literal act of receiving the water. Intent (proponunt) is concurrent with the font, not a standalone substitute."

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Lukas Scooty@CatholicLukas·5d

@badatcatholic @__Isabella__007 @ColleenEldrach1 @Zachspeare @maccabeanpapist @1Friarminor Fallible saints and popes in non-infallible capacity? Read the @1Friarminor very detailed Latin breakdown showing how infallible Trent never taught BOD, and in fact, taught water baptism is an absolute for justification. If you disagree with that show why his grammar is wrong.

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badatbeingcatholic.com@badatcatholic·6d

@__Isabella__007 @ColleenEldrach1 @CatholicLukas @Zachspeare @maccabeanpapist @1Friarminor None of these people rejected BOD, while we have multiple popes and saints affirming it

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Lukas Scooty@CatholicLukas·5d

@derblutmeister4 @1Friarminor I think his point was that the Church didn't allow the type of lending you are referring to, either. The idea that usury has only been around as long as credit cards and payday loans is not correct, since the Church condemned usury centuries prior to their invention.

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🩸 Herzog Weiß 🩸@derblutmeister4·6d

@1Friarminor We aren’t talking payday loans and credit cards. It’s all standardized interest. Usury distorts the demand curve and warps everything it touches.

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Saint Francis@1Friarminor·30 Ara

Usury, for centuries condemned and considered evil, now considered as "normal," is one of the greatest tricks to destroy western civilization. Usury is a massive destructive force crushing civilization. Usury has played a major part in the current world we now experience.

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Usury, making profit by simply lending two coins and doing nothing else to make three coins, was *always* strictly condemned by the Church prior to the Renaissance. It's simply making "fiat" money out of thin air backed by nothing. That practice is universal today.

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Lukas Scooty@CatholicLukas·6d

@__Isabella__007 @ColleenEldrach1 @Zachspeare @maccabeanpapist These false opposition groups divide all who try to hold the faith. Consider their lunacy of viciously attacking Catholics that hold that water baptism is absolute for salvation. Most of the leaders are dishonest or can't really read Latin as @1Friarminor demonstrates in depth.

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Isabella ⋆⋆♕⋆⋆ Roman Catholic@__Isabella__007·6d

@ColleenEldrach1 @Zachspeare @maccabeanpapist To clarify why that is no argument against the sedes: Perpetuity of the office isn't without periods of having no pope. The Church had no pope for long periods of time in the past. Perpetual can't mean at all times and moments, otherwise those times without a pope are a problem.

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Lukas Scooty@CatholicLukas·12 May

@chesterbelloc3 @1_lauren28 @1Friarminor No, Saints disagreed and most Church Fathers held the same position as him on water baptism. BOD was always speculation not dogma. The point is what does the Latin of Trent say in totality. What @1Friarminor stated is correct. Nice talking with you. You are wrong, though.

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Ryan Grant: Cigar smoking pseudo-intellectual 🚬@chesterbelloc3·12 May

@CatholicLukas @1_lauren28 @1Friarminor No, it's wrong to expect me to agree with what's wrong, and co trary to the Father's and Doctors of the Church in a common consensus.

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Ryan Grant: Cigar smoking pseudo-intellectual 🚬@chesterbelloc3·9 Tem

"Every morning I wake up thinking good, another 24 hours of pipe smoking." —JRR Tolkien London Telegraph magazine, July 1966

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Lukas Scooty@CatholicLukas·12 May

@chesterbelloc3 @1_lauren28 @1Friarminor There appear to be posts in that thread that weren't on that subject, but with no pushback from you. Regardless, @1Friarminor is correct in the causality, ontology and the Latin. I agree, it was certainly a mistake to ask you.

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Ryan Grant: Cigar smoking pseudo-intellectual 🚬@chesterbelloc3·12 May

@CatholicLukas @1_lauren28 @1Friarminor It's wrong for a ton of reasons, but you're not invading my Tolkien thread to do it. Make a general post and I will respond when I have time.

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