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Charles Howarth
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@ScepticalSista @DanielJHannan When I was a teenager my church group went and prayed outside a Mosque to "claim it back for Jesus". I am aware of many many other churches doing very similar all across the country.
Should that church have been allowed to do that?
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Obviously Nick Timothy should not be sanctioned for expressing a legitimate view.
Equally, people should not be prevented from praying in public, whether they be anti-abortion protesters or Muslims marking sunset prayers.
Sheesh, it's lonely being a classical liberal these days.
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Never seen Khan look so much like an elderly gran
Sadiq Khan@SadiqKhan
After a month of fasting dawn to dusk - never has a flat white tasted so good. Eid Mubarak! ☕️
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@pooball @JElluot15678 And you're a useful idiot, a moron who virtues signals about being an atheist but who is really a shill for religious fundamentalism and its associated hatred of gay people, women, Jews etc.
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@CharlieHowarth1 @JElluot15678 And your commentary on here makes you a cunt.
I bid you good day sir.
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@JElluot15678 @pooball This doesn't address the possibility that other atheists might feel threatened by it or that there are good logical reasons for feeling threatened.
It's post-truth brainrot
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@JElluot15678 @pooball No, you just don't understand how to construct an argument.
I made a claim it is an issue for atheism. Your only response to that is "I am an atheist and I don't feel threatened".
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@pooball @JElluot15678 Calling people a cunt while cowering behind a semi-anonymous profile does not make you tough or edgy, it makes you a coward.
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@JElluot15678 @pooball Lovely, good for you, thanks for telling me. But you are one person.
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@CharlieHowarth1 @pooball ‘In terms of Islamic prayer in Trafalgar Square, what criteria are you using to describe them as "not threatening"?’
By the criteria of me not being or feeling threatened.
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@JElluot15678 @pooball Ok, but that's an argument based on subjective feels, not logic.
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@CharlieHowarth1 @pooball Mate.
For the final time.
Your words were ‘ an incredibly stupid atheist can’t work out why mass praying might be a threat to atheism’
In other words you’re asserting an atheist should feel threatened by praying.
I’m atheist. And I’m not. That’s it.
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@ACT2CAM @MonkEmma @DeathlyAcorn @WasAcop I know, but you accept their framing. Quite worrying if people are now just adopting Islamic frames. If you believe that the Quran is a mystical text that requires imams to interpret it, then why wouldn't you simply accept the whole belief system contained within?
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@CharlieHowarth1 @MonkEmma @DeathlyAcorn @WasAcop *Muslims* view it that way, Charles. Sorry, I thought I had made that clear.
Learning from scholars is how the text is culturally parsed. Hence the broad dynamic of interpretation and consequent differences in the way Islam (or any religion for that matter) is observed.
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The other events are more festive and performative, while last night's included a formal, obligatory congregational prayer that visually and audibly dominated the space for that brief period.
That’s the difference.
Adnan Hussain MP@AdnanHussainMP
Nick, this is disgraceful. Do you object when Sikhs, Hindus or Jews gather in Trafalgar Square? Or is it only Muslims you smear with talk of “domination”? They were invited, like all faiths. Your rhetoric is inflammatory, divisive, and beneath any serious public office.
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@Szlater2 @ThePujaTeli The NKVD are investigating "foreign dissidents" in relation to the failure of this year's grain harvest
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@CharlieHowarth1 @ThePujaTeli They manage to avoid all mention of demographics, except they let slip the police were checking for “foreign convictions”.
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I'm not convinced that reading the news in a country of only 70m people should involve always wondering "what fresh horrors am I going to encounter now?"
BBC News (UK)@BBCNews
Reports of children as young as 11 abused in West Midlands mini-marts, BBC reveals bbc.in/47TdGWc
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One TERF complained that, theoretically, a trans person could take part in this course.
As a result, the entire course has been shut down.
Just another example of transphobia harming women
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@MonkEmma @ACT2CAM @DeathlyAcorn @WasAcop arguments and no evidence in relation to my arguments in this thread.
And, if nothing else, would make you a more competent debunker.
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@MonkEmma @ACT2CAM @DeathlyAcorn @WasAcop Sometimes grace and humility are important, Emma. It's important to realise that you do not have a monopoly on wisdom and sometimes "the other side" are right.
Realising this would have stopped you from the misstep of believing you can get away with offering no
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@JElluot15678 @pooball In terms of Islamic prayer in Trafalgar Square, what criteria are you using to describe them as "not threatening"?
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@JElluot15678 @pooball Are you in favour of Christians silent-praying outside abortion clinics on the basis you are not directly threatened by it?
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@Peter88902568 @maxtempers "...unless the journey is downhill, in which fill your car up with as many body positive relatives as possible"
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@maxtempers "Tell large relatives you can't give them a lift, and see how much fuel you save."
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Martin Lewis is now doling out driving tips to help combat the Strait of Hormuz price hikes.
Possibly the most daft thing I've ever watched.
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@niall_east Right, because I am responsible for what my ancestors did despite not being alive.
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@CharlieHowarth1 I'm not referring to Trafalgar Square but it's odd to hear a Brit speak flippantly about people turning up in places then raping and plundering
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But it is an Arabic name .... Taraf Al Ghar. A hillside of laurel.
Henry Bolton OBE 🇬🇧@_HenryBolton
Trafalgar Square is not a Muslim place of worship.
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@JElluot15678 @pooball In the Islamic world, traditional slavery exists in parts of West Africa and modern day slavery is widespread across the Middle East.
You're virtue signalling but sadly the facts don't help you.
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@JElluot15678 @pooball These examples are irrelevant. Christianity has repudiated slavery. The Pope has repeatedly condemned it. Meanwhile, Muslims have not repudiated a single verse of the Quran.
As a result, slavery does not exist in the Christian world.
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