Sammel Toreno 🫒

The last months and the usual zionists' bullshits and reactions to the accusations in a nutshell.

@nicolomontarini @Piero9251431 Io posso essere definito un pro🇵🇸 (e nonostante non mi piaccia come definizione, io sono pro diritti umani/giustizia sociale e internaz., me la faccio andare bene). Se non sono informato in quanto pro🇵🇸, perché a volte non rispondi alle mie argomentazioni (ad es. post su FN)?

@Piero9251431 Mai conosciuto un propal informato.

Si può essere d’accordo o no, ma che uno come Erri De Luca prenda una posizione del genere, in questo momento, fa di lui un pazzo o un saggio. Chi lo sa, quale delle due.

@nicolomontarini @claudiomontar Cosa avrebbe detto precisamente di sbagliato Claudio Mont? Basta consultare i documenti dell'anagrafe del tempo, i numeri erano quelli, gli ebrei erano meno del 10% della totale popolazione (considerando la Palestina SENZA transgiordania).

@claudiomontar Se non sai ciò di cui parli è meglio tacere.

@nicolomontarini @meltingmax E cosa succede quando si cecchinano manifestanti, comprese donne e minori, durante una protesta pacifica? O quando, solamente per far naufragare definitivamente gli acc. di oslo e la soluzione a due stati, nonostante avvertimenti egiziani, lo shin bet recapita milioni$ ad hamas?

@meltingmax Sono cose che succedono quando inizi una guerra macellando i bambini davanti ai genitori, violentando dei giovani che ballano ad un festival e dando fuoco agli anziani nelle loro case.

@nicolomontarini @paoloia Socialdemocratico* (e bugiardo SECONDO TE, opinione perfettamente legittima, come quella di Sanders sul genocidio, ma entrambe restano OPINIONI, non fatti)

@paoloia Comunista bugiardo (scusa la ripetizione).

@nicolomontarini @ulvy3000 Ehm, @nicolomontarini, è scritto letteralmente (visto che parli di giudei, ovvero gli israeliti, ovvero gli ebrei inteso come POPOLO ANTICO, pre distruzione del secondo tempio, l'ebraismo odierno come religione e cultura è DIVERSO) nel testo sacro degli ebrei: conquista di Canaan

@ulvy3000 I giudei hanno invaso la Giudea?

@LucaBizzarri No Erri prende la posizione del Sionista. Sionismo significa dall'inizio del 900, autodeterminazione degli ebrei in Palestina. (a spese dei Palestinesi, che erano il 90% della popolazione, prima del loro arrivo) Basta cancellare quanto è tra parentesi per sentirsi un saggio.

It goes back further than that, Aristotle mentions the region Palestine in his Meteorology which was written back in or around 340BC- long before the Roman’s expanded out of the Italian peninsula. Quite remarkable you didn’t include that, I mean I’m sure it’s just a mistake and has nothing to do with driving a certain narrative…

@noatishby Noa—Israel & Palestine are more like Britain & Ireland whose people are a descendants of a mixture of invaders over multiple generations & immigrants. Neither 🇵🇸 or 🇮🇱 can claim violence wasn’t used in the past to assert claims. The issue is how do we respond to latest violence?

Right wing nationalists in whatever era portray the conquered people as savages—instead of looking at their own savagery in forcibly taking land from one people for themselves.Extremism leads to extremism.For every action there is an opposite reaction. Show love & understanding.

The right wing Zionist narrative is fundamentally biased as it fails to provide a fair representation of how British conquest (& the forcible imposition of Zionism advanced British interests in the Suez & Middle East) was viewed by the majority local inhabitants. /1 #Colonialism

@noatishby Palestine was used by many ancient geographers BEFORE the Romans the Torah calls Jews FOREIGNERS to CANAAN The word Hebrew means to cross over (invade) The Torah asked Hebrews to erase the indigenous Levantines living on that land everything about zio propaganda is projection

@noatishby Noa—What is Israel & Palestine? Isr & Pal are both modern states that take the name of an ancient name for part of the region. Right wing nationalists attempt a zero sum game where they impose their national claim & erase the other. Eg Operation Bi'ur Hametz (Cleansing Leaven)

@noatishby Jericho, near the Jordan River in Palestine, is one of the oldest agricultural settlements in the world dating to 8,000 BCE or earlier. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_o…

@noatishby What is Israel?

The so called united kingdom of Israel never existed. David and Solomon ruled a tiny portion of Judea. The northern kingdom(samaria) had nothing to do with the southern kingdom (Judea). Judea and Samaria were never historically unified. It was refuted by two renowed Israeli historians. The modern state of Israel is an extension of European settler colonialism. It has no connection to biblical Israel. If I named my house vatican does that mean it is the official vatican. If I named my son Jesus, does that mean he is the real Jesus. Stop the nonsense.

@noatishby Yawn 🥱 Fine. Call us Canaanites from Canaan then... Where are you from? You don't look like you're from the Levant? European maybe?

As confirmed by DNA studies, modern-day Palestinians are over 80% descendants of mainly ancient Canaanites and Levantines who have inhabited the land for the past 4,000 years. They have the same or even greater claim to the land than Israelis, who were mainly ousted from the territory by the Roman Empire 1,800 years ago. Would you be willing to abandon your house and land for some ethnic group only because its members inhabited it 1,800 years ago?

@noatishby The most racist thing one can do is to deny the existence of a people. Only Jewish zionists feel at liberty to spread this kind of genocidal language.

Do you realize Palestinians are the descendants of the inhabitants of ancient Judea. Overtime the indigenous jews of the region converted to Christianity and Islam. Early Zionists acknowledged it. Also the "jewish people" is a myth. Jews are not a singular people or a monolith. They are very diverse and do not have a common ethnic lineage. How can people from diverse backgrounds and from different continents share a common ethnic lineage and all be considered indigenous to Israel lol. Palestinians are the remnants of the indigenous Jews of Judea that you keep referring to. White Europeans or other jews have no historical connection to ancient Judea or its native Jewish population. Cope harder.

@noatishby You are the crocodile.