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Well, that escalated quickly. There’s been a wave of claims by cheaters about Vanguard “bricking” their PCs, so let’s clear that up: Vanguard does not damage hardware or disable your devices. The photo we posted is a picture of cheat hardware devices that are sold explicitly for cheating in VALORANT (not normal PCs or PC components). Through our latest updates, Vanguard now makes those devices worthless for VAL, but does not in any way brick PCs or PC components or PC software. Our latest update enforces standard platform security features, like the Input-Output Memory Management Unit (IOMMU), on accounts identified as using Direct Memory Access (DMA) cheating devices. These protections are already part of modern systems and when enabled, they block DMA cheat devices (such as those shown in the photo) from accessing memory in downstream applications, like our games. If a cheat setup continues attempting to cheat after those protections are enabled, the system may generate hardware faults or instability. This is expected behavior under IOMMU when attempts are made to read protected memory. Disabling IOMMU allows the cheat device to function again, but IOMMU will still be required to play our games. This means the cheat device won’t work with our games, but your PC isn’t “bricked.” We would not, and cannot, impact your PC’s functionality in any other fashion. This functionality only applies to systems attempting to use DMA cheat devices, and players who are not using DMA-based cheat setups are not affected. We’ll keep investing in anti-cheat to protect competitive integrity, and we’ll keep being as transparent as possible about how those systems work.

@lolgisticalOfc @pparsons Yoo it’s the destiny guy

Hey @pparsons was it worth all those damn cars to drag what we love into a grave? Hope it was. Hope karma bites you in the ass.

"Marathon killed Destiny" or in a much, much longer format: - Content Vault/engine upgrade: Lost story content/favourite activities and weapons gone. Player investment soured. - Sony buying Bungie for $3.6B, at a major peak for Destiny with Witch Queen - The following expansion Lightfall being a major bomb and misstep which was the result of shuffling expansion/story plans - This expansion was what they were banking on being an even further success to finance their other two projects in development at the time. - First Bungie layoffs in Oct 2023, revenue for Destiny fallen by 45%. Destiny Final Shape delayed 6 months, Marathon delayed to 2025 (at the time) - Second round of Bungie layoffs 1 month after Final Shape. Pete Parsons CEO at the time saying they had to make the decision after exhausting all other mitigation options. (What they didn't know yet is he was enjoying that inflated Bungie sale to Sony, buying a whole plethora of classic cars to enjoy while he fired hundreds of devs. but yes, all other options exhausted). - Resulted in unannounced Bungie game transitioning to a new studio under Playstation. - Creative Studios arm of Bungie moved into Playstation to help support other Sony live service. The next big Destiny thing Payback, was cancelled. Big Bungie names laid off. - These two layoffs took Bungie from 1600 employees to about 850. - Sexual harassment accusations against the at the time Marathon game director Christopher Barrett, he is fired. - Oct 2024 Red War plagarism lawsuit, dude says the narrative is lifted from work he wrote on wordpress in 2013/2014. the content is vaulted they can't access it. YouTube footage of the campaign is insiffucient. Nov 2025 they reach an undisclosed settlement. - May 2025 art plagarism with Antireal. Art she created in 2017 were found within the beta of Marathon as art assets. Bungie confirmed a former dev had used the art without permission, promising to work with Antireal to correct it and performed a full evaluation of art in Marathon to verify originality. Antireal was satisfied with the outcome they reached. Marathon delayed indefinitely at this time, with a mention of releasing within that fiscal year. - This was, and still is massively overblown to "every single part of Marathon" being plagarised, and the misinformation surrounding this is staggering and genuinely put a knife in the game's chest. This was a consequence of mass layoffs resulting in a new creative team and this team not knowing where this art came from, and one shitty dev really dealt Bungie yet another shitty hand. - Edge of Fate launches under expectations due to such baggage from these events including company management/morale, questionable decisions like the content vault and not having any onboarding for new players at all essentially only being able to cater to existing players, unable to grow the game's population as there was no fucking cohesive story, as it got vaulted. The new expansion is bad, removes things that worked, added things that didn't, and the new game director is a long term bungie employee but also hermit who just does not speak to the community, even now with it's end of life update. - Pete Parsons leaves Bungie while laughing to the bank. - Doing the Avengers Endgame problem and going right into a new phase when people are not excited about more, they needed to build the excitement again over time. Edge of Fate comes out like a wet fart and the next thing we get after that is the Star Wars crossover, this was not what Destiny needed in order to continue even if it was good. Bungie fucked up a lot, had harbored a lot of ill will and sitting with an overall soured fanbase with a decade's worth of already very demanding fans who at times were rightfully upset and over times completely not, PLUS shit that wasn't within their control to handle so piled on even further and gave the hateful crowd so much ammo that Marathon was plagued the whole time and still is. Bungie also under fire for "abandoning Destiny" but they just simply couldn't right this ship due to so many circumstances and then players leaving in droves therefore of course they will focus on their new game to try ensure a success, as that doesn't have 10+ years of baggage and it is something that needs to keep Bungie going and now we are where we are. It isn't fucking dmg's fault for being a community manager and being excited about the future of Destiny and wanting to see it thrive. WE ALL WANT THAT, BUNGIE INCLUDED! But multiple mistakes, unforeseen challenges and a lot of fucking money get in the way of this "momentum". You can't build momentum when you're one foot in mud, and the crowd supposed to be cheering you on are throwing rocks at you. The absolute batshit takes I've seen from the community is a mixture of shameful, childish and often bordering on straight up psychotic. But yeah, "Marathon killed Destiny."

@CodeyCodeCodey Bungie sped up the process by ignoring their player base to get a Sony check, that happened before marathon was in development.

@ClicheTtv I think the majority of fans are just blaming Bungie for their incredible mismanagement, the company has just killed Destiny 2, and unfortunately, if things keep looking like this, Marathon will be next. Marathon didn't kill Destiny, but it definitely accelerated the process.

Nothing like bungie fans murdering each other in the streets because they made 2 different games. Marathon and d2 are both amazing games but this war that marathon fans hate d2 is crazy. I’ve only ever seen d2 loyalist be this salty

@Knightwing0801 Me when tft doesnt get an update cause they are making a new aram map/ hero

@ClicheTtv You know whats funny. No other fan base acts like this. Tf2, cs2, dota and deadlock all exist. League and valorant all exist even their shitty fighting game does. Yet i dont see fans say they abandoned, or development stoppwd bc they worked on a different thing and they shouldnt

@Pernyx_Kayn Marathon was never supposed to be destiny 3 and was never gonna draw in d3 numbers devs should be allowed to make something different sometimes

@ClicheTtv Most Destiny fans just think its very obvious that Bungie put all their eggs into the wrong basket, and Bungie won't survive. Marathon doesn't have the kind of draw that a theoretical Destiny 3 would have. Its just bizarre that Marathon was ever greenlit to begin with.

there is literally no way i can engage with anybody on twitter rn as a fan of both destiny and marathon without having shit flung at me like a monkey so i'm just not going to

You mean back lash works?

@ZeromuSPlays @PaulTassi It’s bungie making different things not owners. People can make new things

@ClicheTtv @PaulTassi Halo for 343 and Microsoft to Cope tho. Still ppl need to chill.

the fury that's about to come down on Marathon, which has been underperforming Destiny 2 in its worst content draught in history

@DustinWill4791 But targeting marathon rather than the company’s delusions is the problem, marathon didn’t kill destiny, the developers who neglected the pvp community did

@ClicheTtv Noone wants to challenge it and bungie owned it previously under halo

@DustinWill4791 Them only working on marathon is speculation, if its the same team it doesnt matter, the pve in destiny the last 2 years has been some of the best released. The PvP team leaving to go work on marathon also doesnt mater because there was almost no pvp updates for 5 years.

@ClicheTtv Also considering the marathon article with all they coming with season 2 launch and later in that season the destiny pvp team that left destiny to go to marathon would NOT have been able to develop that themselves

@DustinWill4791 The raid team that made the last 3 raids and dungeons (the best ones I might add) is still on destiny

@ClicheTtv Their more to marathon than a pvp team. Map development ,weapon design itself, audio, lore, narrative, hell marathon has a raid like activity which more than likely pulled another team to develop mechanics. Theirs more to marathon than a pvp team

@DustinWill4791 Without a pvp team, this isn’t marathons fault, it’s bungies. The same thing happened with the transition from halo to destiny ya know? We just live in an environment that makes negativity louder and spread more

@DustinWill4791 Marathon has nothing to do with the failure of destiny, resources within pvp were long gone before marathon was in development, it’s confirmed that there was only mix matches of teams patching pvp together. The game whether people wanted to admit was never going to succeed….

@ethanaphant We don’t hate destiny, idk where they got the notion

@ClicheTtv Why would we hate destiny it’s insane lol. I played both d1 and 2 and then now marathon. I’d like for both games to have succeed

@DramaticCape0 dm me on discord i havent played since that bad goth that puts up walls and blocks doors came out

@ClicheTtv Ranked maps are hot garbage and I don’t like Olympus at all for wildcard but at least it’s still fun to shoot

At least marathon is taking the hit instead of cardinal dive @DramaticCape0

@RiskStrategos i promise you its not that hard, a vast majority of streamers felt that way about d2

@ClicheTtv I wanna find some diehard Destiny fans who are celebrating because they believe D2 was a betrayal

@DramaticCape0 Bro you’re in apex? I’d love to get back into it

@ClicheTtv New guns new perks new abilities I’ll check it out but apex wildcard is my pubstomping home now 😂

@DramaticCape0 Absolutely, just to be clear I’m on marathon now but maybe if the new meleed pro golden tricorn better I’ll be back

@ClicheTtv Looks like a cool update to send off d2 guess I’ll have to play a bit again 😂

@hutaolover92 Uhh sounds like they won’t be able to play destiny much longer

this. sick of these destiny mfs trying to make the game something it’s not so they can play more destiny. marathon needs to stick to its core identity and polish it into an even better experience, muddying its identity is part of what killed d2. don’t let them do it again