Cory M. Marsh

“It is impossible to have a desire to forgive without having a will to suffer.” - Adolf Schlatter.

@TomGAGT @Eric25178848 @DrAlanKurschner What, Bible Hub? It’s a good free resource.

@CoryMMarsh2 @Eric25178848 @DrAlanKurschner This might be worth reading too.

Here is WHY many professing Christians will take the mark and find themselves in hell. The plain words of Rev 14 teaches that anyone who takes the mark will go to hell. YET, what is the typical response I get from professing Christians when I bring this up? Giving me every conceivable excuse why they will still be able to take the mark—and not go to hell. You want to play games with God? Then you will find yourself in hell.

@TomGAGT @Eric25178848 @DrAlanKurschner Worth reading up on the recent scholarship. amzn.to/41jm0uE

@Eric25178848 @DrAlanKurschner “Truly I tell you, this generation will certainly not pass away until all these things have happened” (Matthew 24:34), It already took place a long time ago.

@ostrachan Drop the name “Rothschild” on any convo or topic and you got an audience. The Rothschilds have become the bogeyman that the uber-Reformed and conspiracy hounds used to assign to JN Darby.

I love rap music so much, and interestingly Christian rap led me to much deeper worship of the Messiah, Jesus Christ, who lived all his days on earth with Jewish blood pumping through his veins.

I posted this last year. Bears repeating this year.

A BIG thanks to TWR UK and @Christian_Focus for having me discuss what “vintage evangelicalism” looks like contra modern “evan-jello-calism.” See the book for more (in the comments below). youtu.be/ed6NEYljBNQ?si…

@jballigood @colinjfast @Christian_Focus Excellent! Congrats my friend

Happy to announce my third book, a short work on Christology, geared toward high school students and young undergrads, which will be published by @Christian_Focus in their Track series. We're still working on a pub date...l'Il update once I have more info!

Agreed - a helpful article. I teeter between 4/5 on Kurtz’s scale with a lean toward 4 (incidentally I see you teetering between 1/2 with a developing lean toward 2). Several years ago Michael Kruger wrote something similar that was very helpful during my doctoral days. michaeljkruger.com/should-you-be-…

This is a really solid assessment by @RonniKurtz. I’d encourage my brother-pastors who have a toe (or toes) dipped in academic waters to give it a read.

@dgh5391 Not so much a defense of dispensational-ism but of what are (largely) dispensational positions. An excellent volume.

Yes, I "do the reading." Many folks aren't even aware of academic defenses of dispensationalism. This volume is formidable.

@KojakUsa Then I suppose the OP has nothing to do with you. It clearly targeted those who get their dispensationalism from sound bites and pop-level clips.

@CoryMMarsh2 I have my degree from a dispositional school, and was raised in those churches. I reject Dispensationalism, knowing exactly what it teaches and how it's taught.

Imagine the hubris it takes to say to a surgeon I know more about your profession because I watched a 30 sec clip from someone who failed (or never went to) medical school. Yet it happens regularly with those who *think* they know what dispensationalim is because they watched some clip of a populist preacher or political pundit. These types never engage primary scholarship to accurately understand a position, but target only the lowest, easiest, and weakest hanging fruit.

@HyruleTemplar @autocorrect2_0 Your narrative is a common one. My experience is that most who say they “grew up” in a dispensational church never really understood it or the church really never explained it (at least accurately).

@CoryMMarsh2 @autocorrect2_0 I know what dispensationalism is because I grew up in it. And grew up out of it into the Church Christ founded.

I am familiar with Irons. We were both recently on @Theo4church giving our views and interpretations of Romans 9-11 (along with Sam Storms and Richard Lucas). I agree wholeheartedly with him that the differences lie in one’s hermeneutical methods. As I say to my students, everything boils down to hermeneutics.

@CoryMMarsh2 For instance, here is a seven-part video series. This is what I would say is a substantial critique from a respectable and capable theologian. youtube.com/live/sAImiqp0p…

@dgh5391 What’s a “real” critique?

@CoryMMarsh2 Clever. Do you not find that there's anything of substance in the real critiques of your system?

@dgh5391 Yes, the “I used to be a dispensationalist but I ‘left it behind’” is a popular narrative

@CoryMMarsh2 Some of the biggest critics of dispensationalism were at one time taught and schooled in dispensational schools under proponents of dispensationalism...🤷🏼‍♂️

I would think it would be better to expose them to accurate / careful thought of a thoroughly evangelical tradition (even if it annoys you) than simply re-post sound bites with dismissive memes. Give your ppl the best representation of a tradition and let them decide if it’s true or not. All you did was pass the baton of low-hanging fruit with a mocking tone, nothing else.

@CoryMMarsh2 Believe it or not, many Lutherans don't know what Disp. is. And I'm not trying to educate them on the scholarly perspective. I'm trying to expose them to what their neighbor who calls them self a dispensationalist likely believes.

In case you're wondering where Dispensationalists are at in light of last weekend, here is Greg Laurie last Sunday discussing the timeline ahead. He is perhaps the most well know Dispensational Evangelical pastor in America at this point.

The research has been done and if you choose to ignore it (and continue to promulgate errors handed down) that’s really on you. Like I said, it’s much easier to target low hanging fruit (have you read interacted with disp scholars McCune, Snoeberger, Svigel, Kreider, or even any of my published works?). Whatever you say about disp one thing you can’t say from an accurate, informed position is that it’s a “recent theological innovation.” Also, appealing to a school that has a record of inconsistent dispys and confused Reformed alumni doesn’t help your position, it only confirms the problem (And I say this with all respect to TMS, where I have multiple prof friends).

I’ll just respond briefly, brother. (I’m an alumnus of TMS, so I’m very familiar with your position, I used to make the same arguments). 1. This is begging the question. It’s only a “restructuring” of the authorities if dispensationalism is a valid biblical conclusion that is correcting historical Christianity. I disagree. 2. You’re correct as Protestant “systems,” but the innovations of dispensationalism (not premillennialism, itself) break from the patterns of historic Christian interpretation. Whereas the “covenantal” approach is as old as Irenaeus’ On the Apostolic Preaching. American dispensationalism arose in the millennial fervor of the 1830’s, the same decade as Adventism, Mormonism, and the Jehovah’s Witnesses (helpful podcast on the topic below). The evidence of that genealogy remains today with all the conjectures of dispensational preachers over the conflict in Iran. Pastorally, that is the saddest fruit of dispensationalism I see (having been a dispensational pastor). It disciples Christians to ponder the headlines rather than their hope in Christ, even warning them about seeing Christ in Scripture. Terribly sad. podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the…

My former dispensationalism began to unravel years ago because of the literal meaning of texts like 2 Corinthians 6:16-7:1. Paul quotes from Lev 26, Ezek 37, Isa 52, Ezek 20, 2 Sam 7, & Isa 43, and then says to Gentile Christians, “Since *we have* these promises”! In Christ, God has one plan, one people, and one Israel.

Several errors. 1. Nowhere did I suggest a negation of creeds or their authority. I said you did a “restructuring” of them, ie, their privileged positions. These other (sub-)authorities are ministerial; only Scripture is magisterial. You seemed to elevate the creeds etc ministerial position higher than their purely human nature should allow (only Scripture is “God-breathed”). 2. If Dispensationalism is a recent innovation, then so is Covenant Theology, 1689 Federalism, Progressive Covenantalism, etc - even PROTESTANTISM. The “system” is not as important as the ideas that make up the system. The ideas of Disp are ancient and demonstrable. If you’re sincerely interested in the historicity of Disp, check out the volume below. 3. I don’t know a single self-identifying dispy who does not value the church and communion with the saints. In fact dispy ecclesiology privileges the CHURCH virtually over every other doctrine (save the Godhead of course). Your charge is remarkably inaccurate. amzn.to/4d1gtA7

Is not Sola Scriptura a creed that one confesses about the ultimate authority? So it does not negate creeds or confessions, we go into in the discussion. The question is whether one interprets that authority in conscious communion with the body of Christ or independent of it. I would agree dispensationalism is committed to the latter, which is why it is such a relatively recent theological innovation.

@Theo4church @SpringSteps It was a pleasure, brother. Great to hear.

@CoryMMarsh2 @SpringSteps This has been the most listened to series on the podcast thus far. All four views are in the top 15 episodes. Loved having you on; great feedback from folks that took the time to listen and write in!

If “not all Israel are Israel” means ethnic Israel no longer matters, then why does Paul continue in Romans 11 to distinguish Israel from Gentiles and speak of a future salvation for Israel?