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Manchester, England Katılım Şubat 2011
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CrimeLine@CrimeLineLaw·
@markSav94130654 @JudiciaryUK Yes. I don’t criticise members of the public, the sentence concerns me too, but some “lawyers” need to decide whether they are in fact lawyers or click bait media wannabes.
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mark Savage@markSav94130654·
@CrimeLineLaw @JudiciaryUK Strange how people without legal knowledge become experts. Frankly sickening, we really are entrenched in trial by media. Sentencing guidelines are available on line if people want to educate themselves
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CrimeLine@CrimeLineLaw·
Because judicial comms has gone silent this weekend, a void has been filled and goes unchallenged. @JudiciaryUK the issue by the way isn’t whether the sentence is right or wrong, I make no comment on that, it’s the paucity of information that is allowing a Circuit Judge, who properly cannot comment, being hung out to dry. I think it’s disgraceful.
Robert Jenrick@RobertJenrick

At the end of the trial, the judge praised how the two convicted rapists had conducted themselves: ‘You have done very well…’ He then let them off with a ‘rehabilitation order’. It was a disgrace. It wasn’t justice for the victims and their families. If you rape girls, brandish a knife, film it for sport - premeditated - you should go to prison. For a very long time. What message does this send to rapists? This insulting lenient ‘sentence’ must be overturned. The suitability of the judge who made this perverse decision must be reviewed by the Lady Chief Justice. It shows the rot that’s set in our criminal justice system. The Justice Secretary’s plan to create a softer route through the criminal justice system for those under 25 is mistaken. It will only encourage more of this. And David Lammy proposes raising the age of criminal responsibility to 14. That would have meant, for example, the killers of Jamie Bulger escaping prison altogether. No. Those who commit the most despicable - evil - crimes must go to jail. For punishment. For public protection. For justice. It’s as simple as that.

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CrimeLine@CrimeLineLaw·
@NemoDolphin79 @JudiciaryUK Indeed. I don’t say that judges are immune from criticism, far from it, but I am utterly appalled by the paucity of information. Of course, it may not change views but it would allow a balanced commentary from an informed position.
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Nemo the Dolphin@NemoDolphin79·
@CrimeLineLaw @JudiciaryUK The worst thing is even seeing solicitors and barristers criticise the judge on social media. Post the Proudman BSB case, they’re unlikely to be disciplined. How far have we strayed from basic professional conduct standards?
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CrimeLine@CrimeLineLaw·
I suppose two things. First taking 2022, as an example, the Law Officers received 1,179 cases to review and referred only 139 cases to the Court of Appeal. In total, 95 cases (68%) saw the sentence increased. So yes, an indication but nothing more. But secondly, a relatively small number of circuit and high court judges sentence a very large number of cases (tens of thousands each year) so the number of cases “successfully” referenced is in % terms incredibly low. So if you want a flawless system you need to look towards the Vatican perhaps.
Ameer Kotecha@Ameer_Kotecha

What I find hard to understand about our justice system is this: isn’t the need for law officers to intervene to review the sentences the judge has given an indication they have seriously erred and made a grave misjudgment in applying the law? And, if so, why is intervention by the attorney general not accompanied by proper accountability and professional consequences for the judge in question?

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CrimeLine@CrimeLineLaw·
And @sportub365 is so confident in their argument that they block me. If ever there were a need for mature public legal education and the ability to engage with contra argument, it is now.
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CrimeLine@CrimeLineLaw·
A terrible slur against Liverpool.
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CrimeLine@CrimeLineLaw·
@johnsha13440626 Out of curiosity, did you attend the trial (or any of the trials)? And if not, which I suspect is the case, and this is a genuine question, why do you feel that you are better placed to judge the facts?
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john shaw@johnsha13440626·
@CrimeLineLaw The trial is a terrible reflection of our justice system.
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