CrispFlake

Okay so... this doc adds some new context to everything. docs.google.com/document/d/1te…

@BuildHero I think the biggest issue ppl have is the need for ID verification.

The backlash from the “Having Roblox+ publish games” makes no sense to me. $5/m to publish on a platform that offers hosting, data storage, and a massive global audience all while making the platform safer? Sign me up, now and forever. As a developer, if you can’t make that money back with a game then you may need to reconsider some things and assess why you’re actually mad at this situation. Back in the day you used to NEED Builders Club to publish more than 10 games, and OBC (20/month) to DevEx for that matter. And to my knowledge, with this change you’re still able to create and test games within groups without paying anything—just not publish publicly. Is there something I’m missing or misinformed on, because all of this seems rather performative?

@Chuldete Ill just drop what I've discussed w someone else since it applies to this aswell.

@CrispFlake57764 Even if he was allowed to bring his shit to the hospital, his first thought was to go back to roblox and play Arsenal? He slashed his wrists, wouldn't it hurt to play fuckin' Arsenal of all games?? It just makes no sense

Again these people literally just have absolutely 0 idea what they're talking about, while discussing a serious topic like this, then they block you so you cannot properly inform people that they are stupid. Yes you can have tech in the hospital, people can bring you your shit.

@ESalvequar70355 I agree with you, I dont think it makes sense either, but it just is not solid enough to call it proof. Because we just don't know enough. Thats js my opinion on it.

@CrispFlake57764 I really get it I really do and i Wana thank you for your apology but why would zeal after his 'attempt' go and play arsenal.. most people after their attempts just state at a wall or sleep or have therapy sessions.. and don't have acces to phones that is why it was so weird tome

@tecmax101 I do think it's strange though that you have to reach for points like this to discredit people, my join date should not mean anything. Because I use twitter less, I am less credible? Honestly with how people act on here it should be the other way around...

@tecmax101 Sorry, I had a different twt account before, but I don't have access to it anymore, because it was too long ago, so I made a new one due to this situation so I could discuss it! I don't usually use twitter. Apologies if it makes any of my claims less credible.

Account made a week ago award

To everyone thats been reading my recent posts, let me make this clear: im standing neutral right now. Im allowed to share my opinion and my doubts about Ren without necessarily having to side with Zeal. Ill return to normal posting soon, i just had to take this off my chest

@ancksiety @cutewife9980355 It's not "ZEAL IS INNOCENT" or anything. It's about properly analyzing the evidence provided and trying to figure out the situation. That's why videos like this are importiant, and why docs like this should not be read over once, and instead looked at closely for hours.

@ancksiety @cutewife9980355 This discussion was never about "Yo what zeal did is okay" it's about, if it actually happened the way the doc portrays it, and when a document has as many inconsistencies and lies as pointed out in the 1:30h video, I think it's fair for people to be skeptical with that context.

Wont even beg, watch this if you want, or not, because most people probably wont, but it's a very very VERY good disection of Ren's document. youtube.com/watch?v=AzWqmc…

@cutewife9980355 I would agree with you, but in a situation that is THIS serious the length of a video doesn't matter. Situations like this NEED long analysis, not shortened down content to make the viewer experience nicer. This video would not be able to make the points it does with short length

@CrispFlake57764 This video is too long to ask for an already decided and judgemental audience to listen to. People are also swimming in tons of hateful info on both ends to go through. A video/doc simply recapping everything that's actually wrong without turning itself into propoganda is needed

@NsfwGoldie Thanks for your info, other people have commented otherwhise, who have appereantly had similar situations. It might be different for every hospital, but I don't know myself! So don't quote me on it. (also yeah I accidentally replied to a diff post first my bad about that)

You can have tech in the hospital, but not in the psych ward. Once you get admitted for attempting suicide or self-harm, they take away all your electronics. It is a device that you can do harm to yourself with meaning it isn’t permitted to those on psych holds.

@Potatoa22 @Mr_Mobius_ @transgendernoli The reason these screenshots look like manipulation, is because Ren literally tells you it is with subtitles, when in reality it is literally just Zeal being distant in literally every screenshot. youtube.com/watch?v=AzWqmc…

@Mr_Mobius_ @transgendernoli yea but the lack of any defense from zeal with him instantly groveling and trying to take his own life allegedly despite it going against ren's wishes also the SS's between ren and zeal are all manipulation and show he never had any remorse and prove zeal knew what he did

do you guys also think its odd to ask for proof of SA, screenshots are literally literally enough dude

@dazed_dazee This screenshot is taken out of context

"nobody is gonna know"

@pixeldollXP I forgot to include a screenshot, but when I said "calling random people rapists" I meant this, not zeal or anything.

@pixeldollXP Not accusing you of anything btw but I've seen absolutely inhuman posts over the past few days, coming from both sides. And I believe that blocking anybody who disagrees with you, is extremely closed minded, as you are putting yourself in a bubble, which a lot of ppl do rn.

Just want to point out , everyone who's been saying Ren is lying are conservative & boil it down to "these leftist BITCHES can lie about ANYTHING" vs people who believe Ren actually treat it tactfully & in an intelligent manner. The disbelief of Ren legit stems from bigotry.

@AZVRELOVER @thloveofthgame Please do not take a single person being this vile as an excuse to be vile. This is obviously a troll or something. They're trash so don't stoop to their level.

@thloveofthgame Oh but when you say all abusers and rapists should die you're the horrible person because you're wrong for wishing death on a human life and all human lifes are precious, not because the victim asked you to not wish harm on their abuser but because wishing death is wrong 💕💕💕💕

your opinion should've gotten you banned and executed but alright

@PerhapsKit Nah I agree, this video is rly bad. He does not treat it seriously at all while pretending he's REALLY mad, then just starts sebastian roleplay, that is NOT how you handle this.

at 27:39, he starts just acting as sebastian, is that really necessary especially in a video with a topic this serious????? am i just being too #woke

@JaxeThepump This reminds me of how in the past people would get called witches and immediately get put on a stick and burned. That is literally the type of "justice" these people operate on, someone says something, with some evidence, then they dont even wait for a response just KILL.

@CrispFlake57764 I fr just wanted to know both sides but ig thats illegal rn. If the Justice was handled by these guys, the world would have ended a while ago lmao

They made a witchhunt list for anyone who *dares* doubt life ending accusations because theres literally a plain lie and contradiction with screenshots in the first page of the doc. Why am i surprised atp.