@SlappedHam I already told you. It was likely a test. Widespread consciousness is monitored to determine when contact is appropriate, so they likely were gauging whether or not we were ready (by our responses).
@Criticalmassman Fair question honestly. We present the stories and the evidence and let people make up their own minds. Some of this stuff genuinely keeps us up at night though 😅 What's your take on the Vrillon broadcast?
In 1977 a Southern Television broadcast was hijacked by someone claiming to be an alien called Vrillon. The voice warned humanity to destroy its weapons or face destruction. No one was ever caught. What if they weren't lying?
@cereal_truther@ManaByte@giltius Actually logical syllogism is something I took at university at the highest level. Both in philosophy, and its statistical analysis counterpart.
I can formulate an argument to perfection. You confuse argument, with your own approval. Hubris.
@cereal_truther@ManaByte@giltius Galileo didn't fair well stating the earth rotates around the sun, either. He wasn't wrong because society at the time wasn't ready to accept it.
@Criticalmassman@ManaByte@giltius Nobody knows anything. Unicorns are real. People can levitate by the power of their minds. Lizard people control the world.
@Criticalmassman@ManaByte@giltius Yeah, that's the thing you need to overcome. It's implausible, and you have no extraordinary evidence.
You just want to believe it. And that makes you high-IQ or something.
You're really bad at this. It's all sneering and no substance.
@cereal_truther@ManaByte@giltius P.S plausibility is not argument at all. "Its unlikely because my personal subjective rubric suggests I should be skeptical"
Skeptical yes, dismissive? No.
@cereal_truther@ManaByte@giltius I can't make argument? Says the guy whose entire premise of validity is 'well if alot of people knew someone would talk', completely negating the fact that NDAs exist and violating one carries serious consequences.
@cereal_truther@ManaByte@giltius Well then ask Grok what to believe, and believe that.
I typically don't deal with people that are 1-closed minded 2-Lower IQ than 120 3- Egocentric in twitter (looking only for echo chambers)
No one ever said we “lost the technology” to go back to the Moon.
That’s not what Don Pettit said in a 2016 interview.
What he actually said was:
“I’d go to the Moon in a nanosecond. The problem is we don’t have the technology to do that anymore. We used to, but we destroyed that technology and it’s a painful process to build it back again.”
And the honest response to that is:
So what?
He said this decades after the Apollo program - after we had already gone to the Moon six times and landed twelve men on the surface.
His comment has absolutely no bearing on whether those missions happened.
What he meant is straightforward:
The factories were shut down.
The tooling and molds were scrapped.
The materials became obsolete.
The engineers and technicians moved on.
The contractors moved on.
We didn’t lose the physics.
We didn’t forget how rockets work.
We lost the industrial ecosystem that made something like the Saturn V possible at that moment in time.
You can’t just snap your fingers and build another one.
That’s all he meant.
By 2016, we had:
• gone to the Moon 6 times
• landed 12 humans on its surface
• built and operated over 10 space stations
• maintained a permanently inhabited laboratory in orbit for over 15 years - the International Space Station (later joined by China’s crewed station, Tiangong space station)
…and that’s when he said it’s a painful process to build it back again.
So again:
That quote clearly doesn’t mean what they pretend it means. Gotta Lie To Deny
@Rjinswand@MichaMWitkowsk1@alexboge Ever wondered if evolution theory applied to Humans, why we 'evolved' to lose hair (and need clothes)? or develop chronic illness on earth that animals are exempt from? Why our circadian rhythm takes on the Martian day when we leave earth?
@Rjinswand@MichaMWitkowsk1@alexboge How do I know Australia exists? I haven't been there. Should I take your word for it that it does?
You know it does. You went there. So how should you approach my skepticism?
@Rjinswand@MichaMWitkowsk1@alexboge Its my understanding propulsion is frequency grafting. Objects in the physical universe have time/space info in them, and by 'encouraging' an object/person to have a different energy frequency they can travel instantly.
@Criticalmassman@MichaMWitkowsk1@alexboge Just virtually instantaneous travel. And they only spend a day at each star. And they send out a MILLION craft to do this very thing.
To date, they still wouldn't have covered 0.1% of the entire universe.
@Criticalmassman@MichaMWitkowsk1@alexboge Sure. But it's all speculation still, based on "what ifs". Not actually evidence. The makings of a good sci fi story, nothing more.
@Rjinswand@MichaMWitkowsk1@alexboge I cannot reveal to you why it is more than speculation. So I expect you to be skeptical. However I only asked that you remember it :) keep an open mind.
@Criticalmassman@MichaMWitkowsk1@alexboge That's an interesting speculation, but its all just built on an "imagine this" premise which is doing a lot of heavy lifting.
@Rjinswand@MichaMWitkowsk1@alexboge When enough people of a society either
1-Know about ET life
2-Desire contact
this rule is disregarded, and a protocol of diplomacy begins.
@Rjinswand@MichaMWitkowsk1@alexboge Let us now assume that their enlightened sensibilities carry laws/rules. Let us assume, that they have codes of conduct when interacting with societies of lesser technology. That, like Kant's cosmopolitan law or Star Treks prime directive, non interference is an aspect of it