x402 is for monetizing backends:
-> Charge a fee for API requests
CommissionRoad is for onchain apps:
-> charge fee when users submit txs
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Danny Delott
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Danny Delott
@DannyDelott
🛣️ Building the monetization lego for web3 @CommissionRoadX Prev @bonkbot_io @delv_tech
Ethereum Katılım Temmuz 2010
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@divine_economy More apps on L1 means a much simpler approach to fees too.
Bridging fee revenue from 20+ L2s to your desired holding chain is a lot of overhead for app builders.
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i've been critical of the EF mandate, but let me say this
we've been live on 20+ chains for years, including all major L2s. this past month is the first time—ever—that nearly everyone has wanted to run their opinion markets on ethereum mainnet
are tx costs higher? sure. but if you're spending tens or hundreds of dollars to earn tens or hundreds of dollars, that cost is pretty negligible.
everyone understands the game now, and it's not surprising that game is upsetting a lot of people.
because the game is simple: scale the L1 as the place where apps are built.
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@0xcuriousapple I think this speaks to a lack of monetization tools in the space for anyone building north of the protocol layer.
Like, I shouldn't need a grant to do a round of audits on a custom contract just to add fees to my dapp.
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i dont think grants in crypto work anymore
there is too much supply and very few legit builders
99/100 are there for grant hunting and not to build something long term
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@EliBenSasson The lack of revenue models for building dapps on existing protocols.
"One protocol, one official dapp" is hamstringing web3
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If you could fix just one thing about crypto, what would it be?
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@tristan @udiWertheimer Epistemic disclosure is a great post from pre-ai days that I think about alot maggieappleton.com/epistemic-disc…
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@udiWertheimer epistemic discipline is going to be amongst the most important skills of the future
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i have never seen this much misinformation on X in my life. basically every popular post is fan fiction
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@lex_node Competition solves this. Right now there is no real incentive to build on existing protocols if you can't take a fee.
App builders don't wanna own custom unaudited smart contracts just to take a fee.
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from talking to other builders, I would say that the one aspect of the EF mandate that they don't like is the free open source license purism
I think this is an extremely tough nut to crack because on the one hand, blockchain doesn't really make sense on a 'closed source' basis (note closed source includes merely source available), but OTOH, every project needs funding, which (if it's an app) means it needs investors, which means it need a way to deliver returns to investors, which means it needs some type of moat (even if temporary)...people will say 'do red hat model' but do you know actual VCs who want to invest in 'red hat' models today?
I would say the Ethereum Foundation should do something structural to solve this problem (or at least seem like it's even aware of the tension) or every application on Ethereum will continue trending toward business-source licensure (if not worse)...
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@LefterisJP @owocki I think users understand and are willing to pay for a good experience.
Uniswap frontend did like 130m in app fees before protocol fees turned on.
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@owocki this. this. this. Grants, donations, etc are not a solution. We need business models and we need users who realize that the "apps are free" kind of narrative or god forbid, app should pay you to use it is dead and buried and hurt the ecosystem a lot already
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@owocki @darryl__yeo I'm building this with CommissionRoad!
Imo the unlock is good monetization tools. It's still strangely hard to build a dapp on existing protocols and take a fee, without writing a new contract.
Dapp monetization is an interesting frontier I'm glad to see people talking about
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At 13, I begged my folks for a PC and taught myself to build websites.
Building that cheap Frankenstein machine with my stepdad is a core memory.
But I'm curious now, are kids asking their parents for $200/mo Claude subscriptions?
Are we culturally there yet?
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We just shipped our new website.
Instead of spending thousands of dollars on a revamp, we built it ourselves with Claude Code in just 2 days. Our only costs were the Claude subscription and our domain name.
Check out our updated list of portcos. ↓
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@merkl_xyz Y'all are an inspiration. Finding a web3 problem that everyone in the space was inhousing and giving folks a tool so they can focus on their actual business instead of building repetitive infra.
We used y'all at Delv and it was a great experience. Keep up the great work! ♥️
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2025 was a milestone year for Merkl.
From an internal side project to a leader in the space, we saw big moves: a full rebrand, $1B in rewards distributed, integrations with Aave, Uniswap, Coinbase, and major product improvements and innovations.
Read the full 2025 recap here: eu1.hubs.ly/H0qDdbm0
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Awesome. I've worked around this by passing human readable abi strings inline and parsing them to be able to see arg names easily.
Glad to see this is solvable in the library instead of in userland.
awkweb@awkweb
figured out a workaround for adding common labels to viem/wagmi contract `args` much better DX, but a bit less performant (idt perceivable in-editor). now need to figure out if we enable by default 🤔
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The way AI sees emdashes as the 27th letter of the alphabet is wild.
Telling it to never use emdashes just doesn't work. Might as well be telling it to never use the letter "a".
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Show me the incentives and I'll show you the outcome.
We'll start seeing more apps when there are real incentives to build them.
nader dabit@dabit3
We need more apps. It's insanity that after 10 years we've still barely seen any crypto / blockchain apps go mainstream, yet companies are still rebuilding the same programming environments over and over expecting a different result. Now we have close to 1,000 L1s and L2s, almost all with tiny technical nuances that 99.9% of people don't care about, all of them fighting over around 35,000 blockchain developers. On the other hand there are an estimated 28.7 million software developers worldwide. There is a solution to the problem is simple: Give the 28.7 million software developers the verifiability and security of blockchains but let them keep their programming languages and environments. This brings the entire internet on-chain along with those 28.7 million software developers. And is composable with every L1 and L2. The best of all worlds. EigenLayer.
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@tevmtools This looks awesome, how does memory client work? Is it a fresh node or can we fork at a specific block to avoid redeploying contracts in beforeEach?
Better yet, is it possible to load it from a snapshot like in anvil to completely avoid any network calls in test?
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