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@KotliSher @afsharidshah @Sapphire_Aylin @FactsPhoeniXYZ @poonchi_ @HasanMS_10016 Murreewal for my dad's dialect atleast.

@afsharidshah @Sapphire_Aylin @FactsPhoeniXYZ @Davidlit3 @poonchi_ @HasanMS_10016 Please could one of you clarify whether you speak a dialect closer to Kotli or closer to your Mureewal counterparts in Pak. Also clarify whether a north AJKian speaks a dialect closer to you or their Hindkowan counterpart in Pak.

"Until Hazara becomes a province, obtaining our rights will remain difficult", Hazarawal. A Hazara province is necessary for the survival of their distinct identity. They are culturally, linguistically, and ethnically different from Pashtuns. [Eik hi naara,Sooba Hazara]

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@AmmarRashidT Here is the estimate he made of BPLF's total combat strength. Note how he includes marris who are obv not active( they are working in karachi and sindh).

@AmmarRashidT Here is the original source from where that claim came from. He doesn't say 55k were active at the same time or that at height they were involved. Just throughout the insurgency some 55K he estimates were involved at some stage of the conflict

What sort of analysis is this? The current Baloch insurgency is much more widespread than the 1970s. I am confused what you mean confided to southern districts? The 70s one was confined to the Kalat belt mostly. This one is much more socially and geographically wider.

@segmentata Of course, security officials can operate if they move with whole battalions. They can by the same merit operate in the 70s everywhere imp as well.

@segmentata aaj be kaafi areas where patrols and movement is restricted and army and FC doesn't go in without strenght. Us waqt be yehi tha.

@segmentata @chaiiiguevara By the time the insurgency actually kicked off, there was no danger.

@chaiiiguevara @Davidlit3 The 1970s were more dangerous. It was just after the loss of EPak, which had superpower support. In the 1970's there was genuine question as to whether the country would survive, while there is no serious question today.

@chaiiiguevara @segmentata I mean if i have 1000 people who fight on the weekends with old leinfeinds, versus 500 dedicated round the clock fighters, would you really say the former is "larger" and the latter "smaller"?

I think both sides of the argument here hold merit. In terms of # of fighters, the 70s insurgency was definitely “larger”. But it was not as geographically spread out as today’s insurgency, which makes an operation like the 70s much less straightforward of a solution. I would also view the situation today as more dangerous due to the ideological strength the movement has acquired in the last decade or so. I think it will only get worse over the next decade given continued inaction, lack of will, lack of strategy, lack of viable reconciliation, etc.

@AmmarRashidT Criteria used to come up with 55K figures can be easily used to come up for the current insurgency at "height" as well, especially when the bugtis, mengals, marris etc sardars were more actively involved in the 2000s-2010s

@Davidlit3 They don't though, none of the current groups even claim such numbers, because it would be ridiculous.

@AmmarRashidT this isn't one off attacks or a suicide bombing, but engagements happen nearly every day and they have established presence etc here

@AmmarRashidT BLA, BLF, and other groups have presence from Gwadar right up to the Nasirabad division. The 70s insurgency was confined to the kalat belt. Reliable account doesn't mean reliable figures, to be frank the sources are pretty poor. The "55K" at height of insurgency( height when?)

@segmentata Many places are still off limits, they need to form came in strenght to operate in mannyy areas. "large parts being off limits" was more of function of state never exisiting in places in the first place. Assey post bugti area also had many places like that. State built stuff up

@Davidlit3 You are mixing up urban terror campaign and hit and run with a full on inauegency. In 1970's large parts of the place were off limits to security services, they needed to bring in troops.drom elsewhwrw. It was closer to modern Swat and former FATA ops.

@AmmarRashidT and urban areas.

@AmmarRashidT It is more widespread both in terms of districts affected, the geopgraphic spread, the ideological penetration and the fact alot of areas the army and FC effectively don't have major presence, they literally are just told to hold the highways( which get roadblocked all the time)

@AmmarRashidT if we use the same boasts and criteria of "5Ok" tribesmen, I am pretty sure all the militant groups can easily boast figures of tens of thousands of members.

@AmmarRashidT The "tribal mobilization" also existed within a few tribes( marris, mengals and not even every sun tribe). The current insurgency exists in the Makran coast, Rakhshan division and Kalat belt and sees attacks even in Nasirabad division. And 2-3K would be dedicated fighters.

@segmentata It wasn't everywhere... The current one is everyone expect Las bela and isn't as strong in Nasirabad division.

@Davidlit3 He is right. 1970's was everywhere but the Pashtun belt. This is primarily south west.

@SaharRao13 May Allah curse you and your dad for exploiting a child.

My dad’s love language is hiring this 11y old girl for me bcz adult house helps are so lazy & they argue so much. This one does all the chores, cleans my shoes and doesn’t talk back. My dad can never see me in distress 😌✨