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@asdfs01234 @salahudeen33 Those who sincerely want to learn weather the Qur'an says that or not, please read the answer by Grok. Muslim brothers and sisters who're reading, save this, and use this post, as I see this picture of the verses above used a lot to spread Islamophobia. x.com/i/grok/share/b…

@iihtishamm Yes, because they don't got the balls to summon the US ambassador.

📌 India summons Iran’s deputy ambassador after the killing of an Indian sailor in the Strait of Hormuz.

@Armed_Spectre @ReasonTheology They think the Muslims believe that Muhammad authored the Qur'an. Whenever they talk about the Qur'an, they say Muhammad said this, he said that. They are so brain-dead, that they are not even willing to be corrected on this, and can't even grant something for argument's sake.

@Armed_Spectre @ReasonTheology (1) The way you explained is NOT what the Trinity is, as defined by Nicea, on ANY level of logic. (2) The point of this portion was the point that the Trinity was historically developed, not what Jesus taught. (3) YES, he & his brother lie, and always misrepresent Islam.

I didn't expect Cliffe & Stuart to claim Jesus is "a part of God." That's wild. These guys have been apologists for decades and don't even know the basics of Nicene Trinitarianism.

@mehdirhasan Jude Bellingham!!! 2 goals and saved a goal as well with that clearance. What an engine. What a player.

Jordan Pickford doing the Lord's work tonight. #england

@LionHeart9001 @ShaykhSulaiman Everything you said is false and misrepresented. You're clearly brainwashed. We don't believe any of that. You're spouting kufr right and left. May Allah be the witness.

Not believing in some woman who breastfeeds men, bathes infront of them, openly bad mouths and paints the prophet as a denegenerate and has the blood of 10's of thousands of Sahaba on her hands makes me a kafir? Maybe it does in your messed up religion. A religion where you believe Allah is a red head with curly hair wearing golden slippers, Slay queen. Astagfurallah. That isn't Kufar but not believing Aisha is your mother is? Give me a break.

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@LionHeart9001 @nielsenInsights @ShaykhSulaiman The whole issue is that you take your 'history' (which is heavily fabricated) and practices from the same narrators who state things that contradict that infallible word of Allah 🤦‍♂️

We accept what passes the criteria of acceptance and reject what does not pass. It's not a matter of personal preference. No word of man can surpass the word of Allah. This is a Shia belief. The Quran is an infallible word of Allah. This is a Shia belief. No hadith has the authority to override the Quran. This is a Shia belief. Even if a hadith existed that said there were two gods it literally means nothing. Naturally a hadith like that would not be followed. It's existence does not obligate the belief in it's words. There are other criteria it must pass. One of those criteria is not going against the Quran.

@LionHeart9001 @ShaykhSulaiman I've studied too. Your methodology is ad-hoc, that's why it's ridiculed by most historians. How can the same narrators narrate contradictory accounts and both be authentic? 🤦‍♂️🤣🙅‍♂️

I've studied 3alm Al Rijal thoroughly. The Shia do not discard ahadith just because they are incorrect or false. We keep them for historic purposes. However, we do not accept them as true. Even if the chain of narration is strong. The amount of Shia that believe the Quran is fallible could probably be counted on one hand.

@LionHeart9001 @ShaykhSulaiman You clearly don't have an idea about Naskh & Mansookh. And, yes, the Qur'an establishes she was your mother. If you reject that, that's kufr. And all the 'historic' things you mentioned can be attributed to the khawarij. Ali RA considered Aisha RA his mother too in our sources.

Talking about who? All I did was narrate a historic fact and brought you all the Sunni sources. If you have an issue with what is said then your problem is with Bukhari, Muslim, Nasai, Malik, AbuDawud, Tirmidhi, IbnMajah, etc,. Also, she isn't my mother. My mother didn't slaughter 40,000 Sahaba in cold blood and she didn't bathe infront of men. Don't get me wrong. I'm not bad talking Aisha. I 100% am pro her slaughter of 40,000 Sahaba, breastfeeding of men, leading of armies against Imam Ali, bathing infront of men, etc,. I'm just reminding you that the Ayah she alleged existed but was eating by a sheep was to legitimize the actions of breastfeeding men.

@nielsenInsights @LionHeart9001 @ShaykhSulaiman The same hadith corpus that contains the majority of your religion has these things within. From within that, you accept what you like and reject what you don't like, but the authentic hadith are in there buddy. So, yeah, ad-hoc.

@Delta_Snake2 @LionHeart9001 @ShaykhSulaiman Nope, we dont. Any major Marja clearly states that there is no tahreef.

@LionHeart9001 @ShaykhSulaiman You clearly have no idea about hadith preservation. By narrators, I mean those people who heard things from your Imams, and their sayings were later compiled by your scholars. Those people heard contradictory statements from your Imams is what I'm saying.

The job of the narrator is to authentic the chain of hadith and write it down. Whether that hadith is to be accepted or not is up to the scholars. It is written down for documentation and historic purposes. In order for the hadith to be accepted it must pass a few tests. Such as not clearly and without doubt contradicting the Quran and having a strong chain amongst other things.

@nielsenInsights @LionHeart9001 @ShaykhSulaiman You believe in Tahreef, which is deliberate corruption. Your hadith corpus accuses the companions of doing it. You hadith corpus states that the true complete Quran lies with the 12th Imam.

@nielsenInsights @LionHeart9001 @ShaykhSulaiman You're conflating Tahreef with Naskh & Mansookh. Tahreef means the Qur'an was deliberately corrupted, whereas Naskh & Mansookh is a concept established by Allah Himself as per chapter 2. Allah revealed those verses, but they were NEVER meant to be in the Qur'an in the first place

@LionHeart9001 @ShaykhSulaiman Aisha RA was the youngest and the most academically active wife of the prophet PBUH. She took it as a duty to transmit the wealth of knowledge she possessed regarding the daily life of Rasool Allah SAW.

@LionHeart9001 @ShaykhSulaiman You're talking about your mother like that? No wonder you're so filthy. The breastfeeding here is indirect, with milk poured into containers. Aisha RA had the status of mother of believers from the Qur'an itself, and she sought extra protection so she made her students Mahram.

@LionHeart9001 @ShaykhSulaiman See how ad-hoc your religion is? You take your religious practices from the same narrators who also narrate ahadith that contradict the Qur'an 🤦‍♂️

@LionHeart9001 @ShaykhSulaiman There's a concept of Naskh & Mansookh within the Qur'an as established in chapter 2. So, yes, those verses (about stoning and breastfeeding) WERE revealed to the prophet PBUH, but only for their legislation, and not for recitation or as part of the Qur'an.

@nielsenInsights @LionHeart9001 @ShaykhSulaiman Some verses were revealed to the prophet PBUH that were not meant to be recited or be part of the Qur'an, but their legislation was to be applied still.

@nielsenInsights @LionHeart9001 @ShaykhSulaiman See, the filthy liars brought the hadiths regarding abrogated stuff. Surah Al-Baqarah 2:106: "We do not abrogate a verse or cause it to be forgotten except that We bring forth [one] better than it or similar to it. Do you not know that Allah is over all things competent?"

@LionHeart9001 @ShaykhSulaiman You're a filthy liar. Bring me one authentic Sunni hadith that says the Qur'an is corrupted. Abrogation doesn't mean corruption, because it is established within the Qur'an itself. If Shia hadith don't matter then why do you take your religion from them? 🤔🤦‍♂️

@Delta_Snake2 @ShaykhSulaiman Both Shia and Sunni schools have ahadith that say the Quran is corrupted. In Shia Islam it doesn't matter what any hadith says. It does not have the authority to delegitimize the Quran. The Shia believe in an infallible Quran. No tahreef.

@BaharJay @ShaykhSulaiman Then I suggest you read the Shia hadith corpus.

@Delta_Snake2 @ShaykhSulaiman The dumbest tweet ever!