Descent_Overload

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Descent_Overload

Descent_Overload

@DescentOverload

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Descent_Overload
Descent_Overload@DescentOverload·
@devinmorrison11 @kerissakti Pricing competition could have also been an avenue for another store to take, but Valve actively prevented that, not just for Steam keys, but also against PC stores not even selling Steam keys. Emails from Valve, found in lawsuit discovery, showed Valve did this.
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Enigma
Enigma@devinmorrison11·
@DescentOverload @kerissakti You are right they could, but they don't have to cause all the competition is useless. People are mad at steam for having a monopoly yet all the "competition" refuses to compete on the same level, then cry when they aren't seeing sales numbers like steam.
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Kris Antoni - Toge Productions
Kris Antoni - Toge Productions@kerissakti·
Lol 😂 As indie, I gladly give Valve 30% cut. They’re supporting open source: Linux, Proton, Fex-Emu, etc. Valve is keeping tech free and markets accessible for all. They’re prob the only one that still care abt gaming, the gamers & devs. not greed. It’s long term thinking
Seth Dirks@SirDustyDirks

Valve: 350 employees Epic Games: 4,000 employees Valve: $17B annual revenue
Epic Games: $5-6B Valve charges devs 30% of their revenue for simply listing their game. Epic Games charges devs 0% revenue share on the first $1,000,000 Valve is one of the greediest companies in gaming. You cannot be pro valve and be pro developer at the same time.

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Kris Antoni - Toge Productions
Kris Antoni - Toge Productions@kerissakti·
@DescentOverload @lyreen0 @Blarggggg2 That survey was from 2019 when Epic Game Store tried to enter the market. At that time, I too thought that Steam’s 30% was too high compared to EGS’ 12%. But then Valve added tons of stuff to Steam, such as Next Fest, Proton, Remote Play, Dev Page, Events, Labs, etc
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Reen #BlokirKominfo
Reen #BlokirKominfo@lyreen0·
@DescentOverload @Blarggggg2 @kerissakti So yes, they do exclusive launches. Prices used to be higher on Epic Store for me, but I can see most of them are the same now, haven't checked for a long time. Still higher on some. Point me to where the devs say Steam are ripping them off?
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lily
lily@vxylily·
He doesn’t smoke He doesn’t drink He doesn’t Womanise He doesn’t party He stays at home He doesn’t bet Where can I find him??
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Descent_Overload
Descent_Overload@DescentOverload·
@lyreen0 @Blarggggg2 @kerissakti 60% profit margin is nearly unheard of in business, 30% profit margin is considered doing exceptionally well. At 60% it means you are ripping someone off. Epic doesn't do exclusive launches accept for their own published games. Epic Store doesn't cost customers more.
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Reen #BlokirKominfo
Reen #BlokirKominfo@lyreen0·
@DescentOverload @Blarggggg2 @kerissakti Okay, I'm dumb. Now explain why their 60% profit margin is apparently problematic and a core discussion in how Valve is such an evil monopoly where Epic keeps doing exclusive launches, design terrible launchers, has no community, and cost customers more?
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PC Gamer
PC Gamer@pcgamer·
Valve veteran slams Tim Sweeney and Epic Games for laying off 1000 people while making 'as much money as possible… and hey Tim, Gabe's better at that than you' pcgamer.com/gaming-industr…
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Descent_Overload
Descent_Overload@DescentOverload·
@lyreen0 @Blarggggg2 @kerissakti I said profit margin, they have a 60% profit margin on the 20-30% revenue share they take. Most of their revenue comes from games that reach 20% revenue share, which means they essentially have pretty close to 60% profit margin on the 20% they take.
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Descent_Overload
Descent_Overload@DescentOverload·
@AntiWokeMemes Trans have the same rights as anyone else of the same sex. They are biological male then they have no right to be in female private spaces. Biological males have no right to be in female sports. and this is true for vice versa. Sex change surgery is an elective surgery.
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Andrew Hulshult
Andrew Hulshult@AndrewHulshult·
That's not greed. That is a buisness model that the public accepted and voted on with their wallet. It wasn't always good, it sucked for a long time. They spent time and money on it. PC gamers aren't into "exclusives". Epic went all in on it for years. 🤷‍♂️
Seth Dirks@SirDustyDirks

Valve: 350 employees Epic Games: 4,000 employees Valve: $17B annual revenue
Epic Games: $5-6B Valve charges devs 30% of their revenue for simply listing their game. Epic Games charges devs 0% revenue share on the first $1,000,000 Valve is one of the greediest companies in gaming. You cannot be pro valve and be pro developer at the same time.

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Descent_Overload
Descent_Overload@DescentOverload·
@DSvenosd @Blarggggg2 @kerissakti you know what people can do? Stop defending Valve every time someone wants to call out that 30% is taking too much, or giving excuses of why its good that valve prevented pricing competiton between Steam and other PC stores that were not even selling Steam keys,
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Descent_Overload
Descent_Overload@DescentOverload·
@Paprslaya @hobshy Except for the fact she hasn't been charged with a crime at all, nor found guilty of a crime. or do you believe in guilty until proven innocent?
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Paper Slayer
Paper Slayer@Paprslaya·
@hobshy Try to convict someone or a fair organization and picture them as criminals when you yourself are a criminal. Ahh the cruel irony… love to see it
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Descent_Overload
Descent_Overload@DescentOverload·
@ike_010101 @hobshy This isn't the first time. Last time 3 agencies tried to get her indicted and all 3 times the grand jury voted there was no cause against her
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Descent_Overload
Descent_Overload@DescentOverload·
@ike_010101 @hobshy she is not in jail, neither has she been charged with a crime at all. Its a referral for an agency to do an investigation to see if there was anything there.
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Descent_Overload
Descent_Overload@DescentOverload·
@Blarggggg2 @kerissakti Nobody is saying for Valve to not take a cut, but rather they don't need to be taking so much of a cut to the point that its a 60% profit margin for Valve. But Valve fanboys don't see that, because none of them care about the artists making the games, they only care about a store
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Blarggggg
Blarggggg@Blarggggg2·
@DescentOverload @kerissakti Yes, Valve deserves its cut. Any indie dev with a mind for business will say the same and the ones that dont are free to try their hand at Epic or GoG. Epic has had like 7 years to get its store to the same level as Steam and it only only got preloading and gifting last year.
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Descent_Overload
Descent_Overload@DescentOverload·
@catboyhottline @AndrewHulshult Fortnite with multple games that Epic has made, Epic Games Store, Unreal Engine For Fortnite for people to create in fortnite, Unreal Engine, Mega grants, Epic Online Services, Epic Games Publishing funding the creation of games from other developers
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Gaylem Returns to Drangleic 🐱 ☎️
Gaylem Returns to Drangleic 🐱 ☎️@catboyhottline·
@AndrewHulshult Valve launching 4 pieces of hardware and making a huge leap forward over WINE with Proton all while keeping the launcher completely stable with 350 employees while Epic has thousands and all they have to show for it is Fortnite and EGS makes me question where's the money going?
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